I fully agree with Nicholas here. I also used rack rentals for my CCIE prep. First it's MUCH cheaper than real hardware, you get a full rack of ISR's (at IPexpert only of course) and indeed when something is not working, it's not a Dynamips bug or a bug on your platform, but just an error in your configuration and you are 100% confident of that. If there is a problem, there are active support people on-call or on-site to help you out with everything you need and you always get your voucher back to reschedule and get a good experience.
Second is the motivation. Since you actually paid for the time to be on the equipment, it motivated me to really get up at 6 in the morning and do labs. If I would have my personal rack, I would be much easier and not be concentrated as I have that rack 24/7. So just my 2cts here :-) -- Regards, Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider) Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc. URL: http://www.IPexpert.com On 10 feb 2010, at 01:06, nicholas golden wrote: > Let me break down my CCIECONOMICS. > > Yea, that's right I made that up just now don't get any ideas :) > > Seriously though let's break this down: > > I'm only going to use the 4x 3560's as an example. > > 3560's for 24 ports is around 900+ us dollars. More like 1100 from what I > have looked at on ebay. > > So that's 2000 bucks and meet down the midd..... Let's see - 2000 bucks > divided by the price of 10 sessions is $225/10 = 22.50 per session (assuming > you buy a 10 pack) > > 2000/22.50 = 88.88 sessions. nearly 89 SESSIONS! That is 688 HOURS of rack > time!!!!!!!! > > Sure you can sell off the equipment afterwords and have access to it but I > get TIRED of messing around with what IOS can run what and trying to do a lab > - just to find out oh damn my platform doesn't support that. Like private > vlans on a 3550 = no go, among MANY other things. > > I'm just talking about the 3560's here. If you want to throw in something > "current" even if you went for 1841s at 500 a piece, that's another 1000+ > bucks > > > 3000/22.50 = 133.33 sessions x 7.75 hours = 1036 hours of rack time. > > 1000+ hours of rack time. > > For the routers, I use dynamips. For all the switching technologies I do lab > sessions specifically for the technologies that relate to the switching. > > I realize the time available to sit through the 7+ hours is hard. I agree, > but what I did is I hit up the IPX team and asked for a deal. So I got a > REALLY good deal on my rack rentals (MUCH better than 22.50 per session) so > if I only use 4 hours of it, no problem. I finish a lab and then start > running through other stuff that's not really lab related but stuff I want to > try. > > I don't get to sell it at the end, but I get my rack time and I don't waste > time copy pasting configs in, seeing if it's my rack's fault or my fault. > > With proctor labs - I know that 99% of the time if something doesn't work > It's not me being crazy it's probably some weird hidden lab task coming to > get me. > > I've preached this before, so some have seen this before some may not have. > There it is for ya :) > > BTW Joe, im enjoying the VOD. Almost done with my first pass through (damn > there is alot !)... > > -Nick > > --- On Tue, 2/9/10, L. Jankok <ljan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: L. Jankok <ljan...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Fwd: Lab equipment > To: "ERNEST CONCEPCION" <destination.ccie.2...@gmail.com> > Cc: ccie_rs@onlinestudylist.com > Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 2:49 PM > > The recommended pod doesn't support ipexpert workbooks... you will need at > least > two more routers and also gigabit interfaces. > > 2010/2/9 ERNEST CONCEPCION <destination.ccie.2...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: ERNEST CONCEPCION <destination.ccie.2...@gmail.com> > > Date: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Lab equipment > > To: Michael Peck <mzp...@hotmail.com> > > > > > > Michael, > > > > My suggestion would be to use the following suggestion from: > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/topology.htm (No offense to IPE fans and > > staff; perhaps it is time that IPE put their two cents in the matter and > > create one so I won't have to recommend another, :-)) > > > > However, as the 3560s were way out of my budget range, I settled for 3550s. > > Everything can be purchased off eBay for really good prices, including > > the serial and octal cables, mount kits, flash/memory upgrade kits, screws, > > rack, you name it. For me it was a great experience, it taught me a lot and > > boosted my confidence and love for Cisco products--nothing like touching the > > stuff, opening it up and playing around with it. I can tell you right now > > that the most expensive stuff you'll buy are the 1841s (roughly $500+) and > > 3550s (roughly $800+), the rest are dirt cheap (from $75-$150). And if you > > couple this lab with a Dynamips setup on a laptop (if you can afford it) for > > traveling purposes, you will be well on your way, or you can setup your lab > > up for remote access when away from your lab. > > > > If you decide to do it, i wish you well and have lots of fun. > > > > Ernest > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Michael Peck <mzp...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Guys, > >> > >> I am building a home lab for my studies and trying to figure out what > >> would be a buget oriented but 100% functional setup that would meet all the > >> latest R&S requirements. > >> > >> If someone who has already done this before could share his knowlegde, I > >> would greatly appreciate it. > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> Michael > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. 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