Hi Kim and Kevin,

 

Even then you can have chirality inversions during real-space refinement, which 
would destroy the SWEET input model from. There is no substitute for common 
sense (and validation) here. 

 

That said, Kevin, something to autobuild carbohydrates (given a sequence) would 
be awesome. I'd use it a lot. Just don't make a WMD (weapon of model 
destruction).

 

Cheers,

Robbie

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> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:06:03 +0100
> From: henr...@ebi.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Straw poll: polysaccharide building?
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
> Yes but it is easier to take the sweet model for the required sequence
> and fit that to density rather than do it residue by residue
> which will lead to glycan structures unknown to the source
>
> kim
>
> > Dear Kim,
> >
> > I asume that Kevin plans to build in electron density maps. As far as I
> > can see Sweet will produce a model unhindered by experimental data.
> >
> > Herman
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
> > Kim Henrick
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:44 AM
> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Straw poll: polysaccharide building?
> >
> > why not use
> > http://glycosciences.de/modeling/sweet2/doc/index.php
> > which works perfectly
> > and would save the duplication of effort
> >
> > cut & paste
> > #---
> >
> > a-D-Neup5Ac-(2-3)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)+
> > |
> >
> > b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-3)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)+
> > |
> > |
> > a-L-Fucp-(1-3)+
> > b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-3)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)-b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-6)+
> >
> > |
> >
> >
> >
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> > a-L-Fucp-(1-3)+
> >
> >
> >
> > a-D-Manp-(1-6)+
> >
> > |
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > |
> >
> > b-D-Galp-(1-4)-b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-3)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)-b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-3)-b-D-Ga
> > lp-(1-4)-b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-2)+
> > | a-L-Fucp-(1-6)+
> >
> > |
> >
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> > |
> > b-D-Galp-(1-4)+
> >
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> > |
> > b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-4)-Asn
> > |
> >
> >
> >
> > |
> > |
> >
> > b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-3)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)+
> >
> >
> > b-D-Manp-(1-4)-b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-4)+
> > |
> >
> > |
> >
> > |
> > a-L-Fucp-(1-3)+
> > b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-3)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)+
> > |
> >
> > |
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> > |
> >
> > a-L-Fucp-(1-3)+
> >
> >
> > b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-4)+
> > |
> >
> > |
> >
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> > a-L-Fucp-(1-3)+
> >
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> >
> >
> > a-D-Manp-(1-3)+
> >
> > |
> > a-D-Neup5Ac-(2-6)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)-b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-3)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)-b-D-Gl
> > cpNAc-(1-3)-b-D-Galp-(1-4)-b-D-GlcpNAc-(1-2)+
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and click and your o/p is as attached
> > apart from the poor excuse for a pdb file it has the model with
> > glycosidic torsion angles as expected as in glycomapsdb
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Straw poll:
> >>
> >> Are you interested in software to autobuild polysaccarides?
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> p.s. I expect I'll have to spend at least a year working on the
> >> problem before before I spell polysaccharide consistently.
> >>
> >                                       

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