Dear Faisal,

the lack of the CCanom line in the shelxc output suggests that your data
are already merged, and my guess is you processed your data with HKL2000
- all other integration programs I am aware of do not merge the data at
such an early stage giving you access to the CCanom Eleanor mentioned.

There might be a switch in HKL2000 to not merge the data. A CCanom >30%
is a good indicator of the presence of an anomalous signal.

Best,
Tim

On 04/26/2014 12:18 PM, Eleanor Dodson wrote:
> Look at the aimless plot of CCanom . That is the best indicator I think and 
> very sensitive when you have such high redundancy
> Eleanor
> 
> 
> On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:13, Jim Pflugrath wrote:
> 
>> <d"/sig> should be above 0.80
>>
>> There seems to be plenty of signal there with all values above 1.02.  We 
>> have solved structures with less multiplicity and lower <d"/sig>.
>>
>> There is a different criteria of "signal" for when you know the positions of 
>> the anomalous substructure atoms and when you need to find the positions of 
>> the anomalous substructure atoms.
>>
>> As for "no signal", I think I am on record that there is always an anomalous 
>> signal. :)  But can you detect it?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Faisal 
>> Tarique [faisaltari...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 4:06 PM
>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: [ccp4bb] anomalous signal
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> sorry about my previous mail where i forgot to mention that the data was 
>> collected on home source at Cuk alpha and at 1.54A.
>>
>> written below is the log file of an anomalous data processed through 
>> SHELXC..my question is ..what is the strength of anomalous signal ?? as it 
>> is said "For zero signal <d'/sig> and <d"/sig> should be about 0.80". Then 
>> in the present case is there really a signal or can be assumed no signal..we 
>> are expecting one Ca atom bound to the protein at its active site..the 
>> redundancy of the data is 11.6..with this signal strength can we assume Ca 
>> to be present there or whatever little anomalous if present is due to 
>> something else....or there is no signal at all ??...
>>
>> Resl.   Inf - 8.0 - 6.0 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 3.8 - 3.6 - 3.4 - 3.2 - 3.0 - 2.8 - 
>> 2.60
>>  N(data)     375   493   580  1319   450   538   679   866  1081  1414  1709
>>  <I/sig>    58.8  38.6  32.6  38.3  27.7  27.2  21.9  18.4  12.6   9.5   6.1
>>  %Complete  94.7  99.0  99.3  99.5 100.0  99.6  99.7  99.8  99.6  99.6  90.9
>>  <d"/sig>   1.65  1.27  1.18  1.25  1.19  1.12  1.11  1.11  0.97  1.02  1.05
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards
>>
>> Faisal
>> School of Life Sciences
>> JNU
> 
> 

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