Hi Wei,

thanks for sharing the data (off-list). I did some detective work and yes,
Clemens is correct: what you see is the effect of bulk-solvent. After
adjusting the solvent contribution (mask) in regions occupied by altlocs A
and B the positive density mostly disappears.

Pavel

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Clemens Vonrhein <
vonrh...@globalphasing.com> wrote:

> Dear Wei,
>
> remember that you might have "something else" in the location occupied
> by each alternate conformation when it is not occupied by that
> particular conformation. If you only model two alternate conformations
> you are saying something like
>
>  that space A is occupied 50% of the time by this A conformation and
>  50% it is vacuum
>
>  that space B is occupied 50% of the time by this B conformation and
>  50% it is vacuum
>
> It is more likely that you will have space A occupied N% by altConf A
> and (100-N)% e.g. by water/solvent. And for B you have (100-N)%
> altConf B and N% e.g. water/solvent. So you will need to model
> everything marked as N% as altConf A and everything marked (100-N)% as
> altConf B - including water/solvent.
>
> Because this is not yet done, the occupancy refinement might try to
> explain the non-vacuum density (water/solvent) by increasing the
> occupancy of each conformation so they sum up to larger than 1.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Cheers
>
> Clemens
>
> PS: in BUSTER (http://www.globalphasing.com/buster/) you can restrain
>     the summed occupancy to one, which can help clarifying how to
>     model the water/solvent region underneath each conformation
>     ... depending on data quality/resolution of course. I'm sure other
>     refinement programs have a similar feature.
>
> PPS: it can be sometimes useful to start refinement once from
>     A=0.1/B=0.9 and a second run with A=0.9/B=0.1. Refinement should
>     reach very similar final values in both cases - which is also a
>     good way of providing confidence in the final results, I think.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 01:10:15AM +0000, Wang, Wei wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> >
> > One quick question:
> >
> >
> > When I do phenix refinement, I see continuous omitted map at one RNA
> chain 3'-end (Fig1).
> >
> > There is no possibility of next nucleotide because I have built
> full-length RNA sequence, which is well fitted into density.
> >
> > Hence two conformations is most possible for the last nucleotide. And
> our biochemical data also supported the result of two conformations.
> >
> > However, I found the occupancy is always > 1.0 (fig2 and fig3), when I
> did refinement of occupancy using phenix refinement,.
> >
> > I also think about the possibility of small molecules in the crystal
> buffer. But in most structures of this protein, there is always no small
> molecule here.
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions for occupancy refinement? I will appreciate your great
> help.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Wei
> >
> >
> >
> > [cid:2b30f1a8-2a3a-4483-ac12-310f4bbed70b]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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