Hi all, I just submitted a PDB deposition where two of the deposition authors did not have an ORCID and it went through fine. As long as the corresponding author (ie the person submitting the PDB) and the PI has the ID I think it will work.
Regards Christine On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 8:34 AM Mark J van Raaij <mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es> wrote: > to be honest, I would want to be an author on the paper (especially in a > "glossy" :-)), but perhaps not on all the database entries...only the ones > I actively contributed to. > I agree being on the paper involves accepting responsibility for all the > work, and often it is impossible to really be fully responsible, because it > would imply checking (i.e. redoing) much of it, but at least in the paper > byline it should say who did what, giving some "safety" if something turns > out wrong with the omics or the mice, but the structure(s) being fine. > > Mark J van Raaij > Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas > Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC > calle Darwin 3 > E-28049 Madrid, Spain > tel. (+34) 91 585 4616 > http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij > Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology > Communications > http://journals.iucr.org/f/ > > > On 9 Apr 2019, at 17:22, Phoebe A. Rice <pr...@uchicago.edu> wrote: > > Very good point, and a good argument against the current trend of > publications in the glossies including everything from mice to omics to > structure all in one manuscript with one set of authors. Especially since > it is being pointed out more vociferously these days (as it should be) that > accepting authorship implies accepting responsibility. > > - Phoebe > > > *From: *CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Mark J > van Raaij <mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es> > *Reply-To: *Mark J van Raaij <mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es> > *Date: *Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:32 AM > *To: *"CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> > *Subject: *Re: [ccp4bb] ORCID being mandatory for PDB depositions > > There is something to be said for not everyone being an author of the PDB > entry anyway. > If I were a non structural biologist who for example had made and tested > some essential knock-out mice for the paper, I might prefer not to be an > author of the PDB entry in case there was something wrong with it (which I > might not necessarily be able to judge). > Similarly, as a structural biologist I might prefer not to be on the > knock-out mice database entry in case there was something wrong or > unethical in the way the mice were made... > > > Mark J van Raaij > Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas > Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC > calle Darwin 3 > E-28049 Madrid, Spain > tel. (+34) 91 585 4616 > http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij > Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology > Communications > http://journals.iucr.org/f/ > > > On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:49, Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Than it is easy enough. You mustn't create an ORCid for others, this could > indeed get you into GDPR trouble as you are sharing personal data without > consent. > > So that leaves the practical bit. If deposition requires an ORCid and a > collaborator does not have an ORCid despite your requests, then that > collaborator cannot be a depositor. Let the record show that this is not > your fault as your hands are tied here. > > HTH, > Robbie > > On Apr 9, 2019 14:33, V F <veronicapfiorent...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 09/04/2019, Mark J van Raaij <mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es> wrote: > > Perhaps the poster is referring to the legality of creating an ORCID on > > behalf of the collaborator? > > Yes that is what I meant. (English not my first language)! > > > That is how I interpreted it - but perhaps I over-interpreted... > > > > Another thing that came to my mind, not everyone has to be an author of > the > > PDB structure. Often all the authors of the corresponding paper are also > on > > the PDB entry, and there is nothing wrong with that, but if a > > (non-crystallographer?) collaborator really doesn't want an ORCID, he or > she > > doesn't have to be an author of the PDB entry. > > > > > > Mark J van Raaij > > Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas > > Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC > > calle Darwin 3 > > E-28049 Madrid, Spain > > tel. (+34) 91 585 4616 > > http://wwwuser.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij > > Section Editor of Acta Crystallographica F, Structural Biology > > Communications > > http://journals.iucr.org/f/ > > > > > >> On 9 Apr 2019, at 14:20, Anastassis Perrakis <a.perra...@nki.nl> wrote: > > >> > >> I am wondering, are there any arguments that would suggest that ORCID is > > >> not in line with GDPR requirements? You are disclosing your name etc to > > >> the PDB anyway, does it matter if its through ORCID or not? > >> > >> Tassos > >> > >> > >>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 14:04, V F <veronicapfiorent...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear all, > >>> Did anyone observe that oneDep from EBI made ORCID mandatory for > >>> deposition? What am I supposed to do if my collaborators do not want > >>> to create ORCID? (especially with GDPR I do not want to create ORCID) > >>> Just posting here so that some one will respond? my mails are going to > > >>> /dev/null? > >>> > >>> Many thanks, > >>> VF > >>> > >>> > ######################################################################## > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > >>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > >> > >> ######################################################################## > > >> > >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > > > ######################################################################## > > > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
