Thankyou Thomas, evidently dvd+rw-format has an error in the source code, because there is no such value that satisfies a proper format inquiry. dvd+rw-format has a nice idea, about specifying the close spare area size, and finding the closest format index value, but fails.
I did not have much knowledge like others of C/C++ or debugging hardware, but I will try with the hints you write in the next email. I've found BD-RE brand new from Japan, and I think it is the better than ever storage media for Cold Backups, since I have old, very old, CD-RW, or DVD-RW media intact, without any kind of data loss. Recently I've been involved in small projects about 1 month each, and I have to keep the information confidential and safe for as long as I can. So, that's because xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -format fast_by_index_2 saved my day. Thank you again, I really appreciate it. Here my experiment: ################ user@mtrog64:~$ dvd+rw-format -f /dev/sr1 -ssa=262144000 * BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by <ap...@fy.chalmers.se>, version 7.1. * 24.2GB BD media detected. * formatting .:-[ FORMAT UNIT failed with SK=5h/INVALID FIELD IN PARAMETER LIST]: Input/output error user@mtrog64:~$ dvd+rw-format -f /dev/sr0 -ssa=262144000 * BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by <ap...@fy.chalmers.se>, version 7.1. :-( mounted media doesn't appear to be DVD±RW, DVD-RAM or Blu-ray user@mtrog64:~$ dvd+rw-format -f /dev/sr1 -ssa=262144000 * BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by <ap...@fy.chalmers.se>, version 7.1. * 24.2GB BD media detected. * formatting .:-[ FORMAT UNIT failed with SK=5h/INVALID FIELD IN PARAMETER LIST]: Input/output error user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr4 -list_formats xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. libburn : FAILURE : File object '/dev/sr4' not found libburn : FAILURE : Cannot access '/dev/sr4' as SG_IO CDROM drive xorriso : FAILURE : Cannot acquire drive '/dev/sr4' xorriso : aborting : -abort_on 'FAILURE' encountered 'FAILURE' user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -list_formats xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.6g free Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.6g free Format status: formatted, with 23098.0 MiB BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 393216 blocks available Format idx 0 : 00h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 1 : 30h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 2 : 30h , 11564032s , 22586.0 MiB Format idx 3 : 30h , 12088320s , 23610.0 MiB Format idx 4 : 31h , 12219392s , 23866.0 MiB user@mtrog64:~$ dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/sr1 INQUIRY: [PIONEER ][BD-RW BDR-209D][1.51] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 43h, BD-RE Media ID: CMCMAG/CN2 Current Write Speed: 2.0x4495=8990KB/s Write Speed #0: 2.0x4495=8990KB/s Speed Descriptor#0: 00/11826175 R@2.0x4495=8990KB/s W@2.0x4495=8990KB/s READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: complete Number of Sessions: 1 State of Last Session: complete Number of Tracks: 1 READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: formatted: 11826176*2048=24220008448 00h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(5000): 11564032*2048=23683137536 30h(1000): 12088320*2048=24756879360 31h(800): 12219392*2048=25025314816 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track State: complete Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 0*2KB Track Size: 11826176*2KB FABRICATED TOC: Track#1 : 14@0 Track#AA : 14@11826176 Multi-session Info: #1@0 READ CAPACITY: 11826176*2048=24220008448 user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -format fast_by_index_0 xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.6g free Beginning to format medium. xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 1 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 2 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 3 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.8% done in 4 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 2.7% done in 5 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 3.6% done in 6 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 4.4% done in 7 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 5.3% done in 8 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 6.1% done in 9 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 6.9% done in 10 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 7.8% done in 11 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 8.7% done in 12 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 9.5% done in 13 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 10.3% done in 14 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 11.2% done in 15 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 12.0% done in 16 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 12.9% done in 17 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 13.8% done in 18 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 14.6% done in 19 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 15.5% done in 20 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 16.3% done in 21 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 17.1% done in 22 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 18.0% done in 23 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 18.9% done in 24 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 18.9% done in 25 seconds ) Formatting done xorriso : NOTE : Re-assessing -outdev '/dev/sr1' Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.6g free user@mtrog64:~$ dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/sr1 INQUIRY: [PIONEER ][BD-RW BDR-209D][1.51] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 43h, BD-RE Media ID: CMCMAG/CN2 Current Write Speed: 2.0x4495=8990KB/s Write Speed #0: 2.0x4495=8990KB/s Speed Descriptor#0: 00/11826175 R@2.0x4495=8990KB/s W@2.0x4495=8990KB/s READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: complete Number of Sessions: 1 State of Last Session: complete Number of Tracks: 1 READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: formatted: 11826176*2048=24220008448 00h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(5000): 11564032*2048=23683137536 30h(1000): 12088320*2048=24756879360 31h(800): 12219392*2048=25025314816 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track State: complete Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 0*2KB Track Size: 11826176*2KB FABRICATED TOC: Track#1 : 14@0 Track#AA : 14@11826176 Multi-session Info: #1@0 READ CAPACITY: 11826176*2048=24220008448 user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -list_formats xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.6g free Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.6g free Format status: formatted, with 23098.0 MiB BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 393216 blocks available Format idx 0 : 00h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 1 : 30h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 2 : 30h , 11564032s , 22586.0 MiB Format idx 3 : 30h , 12088320s , 23610.0 MiB Format idx 4 : 31h , 12219392s , 23866.0 MiB user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -format fast_by_index_3 xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.6g free Beginning to format medium. xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 1 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 2 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 3 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 2.5% done in 4 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 4.2% done in 5 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 5.7% done in 6 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 7.2% done in 7 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 8.8% done in 8 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 10.3% done in 9 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 12.0% done in 10 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 13.5% done in 11 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 15.0% done in 12 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 15.0% done in 13 seconds ) Formatting done xorriso : NOTE : Re-assessing -outdev '/dev/sr1' Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 23.1g free user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -list_formats xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 23.1g free Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 23.1g free Format status: formatted, with 23610.0 MiB BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 131072 blocks available Format idx 0 : 00h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 1 : 30h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 2 : 30h , 11564032s , 22586.0 MiB Format idx 3 : 30h , 12088320s , 23610.0 MiB Format idx 4 : 31h , 12219392s , 23866.0 MiB user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -format fast_by_index_4 xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 23.1g free Beginning to format medium. xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 1 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 2 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 3 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 3.2% done in 4 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 5.7% done in 5 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 7.9% done in 6 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 10.1% done in 7 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 12.6% done in 8 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 14.8% done in 9 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 17.0% done in 10 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 19.3% done in 11 seconds ) Formatting done xorriso : NOTE : Re-assessing -outdev '/dev/sr1' Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 23.3g free user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -list_formats xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 23.3g free Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 23.3g free Format status: formatted, with 23866.0 MiB BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 0 blocks available Format idx 0 : 00h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 1 : 30h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 2 : 30h , 11564032s , 22586.0 MiB Format idx 3 : 30h , 12088320s , 23610.0 MiB Format idx 4 : 31h , 12219392s , 23866.0 MiB user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -format fast_by_index_2 xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 23.3g free Beginning to format medium. xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 1 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 2 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 1.0% done in 3 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 2.1% done in 4 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 3.2% done in 5 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 4.4% done in 6 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 5.5% done in 7 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 6.6% done in 8 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 7.8% done in 9 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 8.8% done in 10 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 9.9% done in 11 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 11.1% done in 12 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 12.2% done in 13 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 13.3% done in 14 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 14.5% done in 15 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 15.6% done in 16 seconds ) xorriso : UPDATE : Formatting ( 15.6% done in 17 seconds ) Formatting done xorriso : NOTE : Re-assessing -outdev '/dev/sr1' Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.1g free user@mtrog64:~$ xorriso -outdev /dev/sr1 -list_formats xorriso 1.5.0 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project. Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.1g free Drive current: -outdev '/dev/sr1' Media current: BD-RE Media status : is blank Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 22.1g free Format status: formatted, with 22586.0 MiB BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 655360 blocks available Format idx 0 : 00h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 1 : 30h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB Format idx 2 : 30h , 11564032s , 22586.0 MiB Format idx 3 : 30h , 12088320s , 23610.0 MiB Format idx 4 : 31h , 12219392s , 23866.0 MiB user@mtrog64:~$ dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/sr1 INQUIRY: [PIONEER ][BD-RW BDR-209D][1.51] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 43h, BD-RE Media ID: CMCMAG/CN2 Current Write Speed: 2.0x4495=8990KB/s Write Speed #0: 2.0x4495=8990KB/s Speed Descriptor#0: 00/11564031 R@2.0x4495=8990KB/s W@2.0x4495=8990KB/s READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: complete Number of Sessions: 1 State of Last Session: complete Number of Tracks: 1 READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: formatted: 11564032*2048=23683137536 00h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(5000): 11564032*2048=23683137536 30h(1000): 12088320*2048=24756879360 31h(800): 12219392*2048=25025314816 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track State: complete Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 0*2KB Track Size: 11564032*2KB FABRICATED TOC: Track#1 : 14@0 Track#AA : 14@11564032 Multi-session Info: #1@0 READ CAPACITY: 11564032*2048=23683137536 On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 7:33 AM Thomas Schmitt <scdbac...@gmx.net> wrote: > Hi, > > if you can afford to wait the up to 5000 seconds for a full format, > then try > > dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/sr0 -ssa=min > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Long story: > > I found an old modified dvd+rw-tools directory which i used to spy on > growisofs when i noticed behavior differences between it and libburn. > (Substantial parts of libburn's DVD and BD knowledge was learned from > dvd+rw-tools. But the need to see its actual SCSI transactions came up > later when supporting growisofs users.) > > The failing SCSI command transaction is > > FORMAT UNIT > 04 11 00 00 00 00 > To drive: 12b > 00 82 00 08 00 b8 74 00 c3 00 10 00 > +++ key=5 asc=26h ascq=00h ( 4 ms) > > FOV bit and Immed bit are set in the Format List Header. > 8 bytes are announced for the Format Descriptor, which requests 0xb87400 > = 12088320 blocks, which is indeed the largest possible payload and thus > requests the smallest possible size of the Spare Area. > Format Type is 0x30 (BD-R or BD-RE with spares). > Format-Subtype is 3 (Quick Certification). > Type Dependend Parameter is 0x00 0x010 0x00. > > Spying on libburn by > > xorriso -scsi_log on -outdev /dev/sr4 -format fast_by_index_3 \ > 2>&1 | tee -i /tmp/xorriso.log > > yields this successful transaction > > FORMAT UNIT > 04 11 00 00 00 00 > To drive: 12b > 00 82 00 08 00 b8 74 00 c0 00 10 00 > > The only difference to dvd+rw-format is the Format-Subtype: > 0 (Quick Reformat) instead of 3 (Quick Certification). > > > Now i begin to find traces in libburn. A comment from 2008 says > LG GGW-H20L YL03 refuses on 0x30 with > "Quick certification". dvd+rw-format > does 0x00 by default and succeeds quickly. > Newer is a test for the Quick Certification flag in feature 23h, > which would prevent Sub-type 3 if not set. > > Looking at > > https://sources.debian.org/src/dvd+rw-tools/7.1-14/dvd%252Brw-format.cpp/#L791 > which has > > if (full && (formats[i+4+4]>>2)!=0x31) > formats[i+4+4] |= 2;// "Full Certificaton" > else if ((formats[i+4+4]>>2)==0x30) > formats[i+4+4] |= 3;// "Quick Certification" > > gives the idea that a run of > > dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/sr0 -ssa=min > > might succeed. > > (My test BD-RE currently gets a -format by_index_3 run of xorriso and > will be ready for more experiments in an hour and a half ...) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > If -force=full helps, then a patch candidate would be to replace > > formats[i+4+4] |= 3;// "Quick Certification" > > by a no-op (the 0 is already written to formats[i+4+4]): > > ; // "Quick Reformat" because "Quick Certification" often fails > > I am not sure whether this will work with all drives. > Maybe better would be to inquire bit 2 of byte 4 of feature 23h from the > GET CONFIGURATION command which already inquires the mmc_profile, i.e. > the current media type and personality. > If that bit is not set, then libburn uses Format Sub-Type 0 instead of 3 > or 2 ("Full Certification"). > > > Further i will have to find out why both softwares send a Type Dependend > Parameter that is not all 0. Might be debris from the Format Descriptors > which gets sent back to the drives. Only good that they gracefully ignore > that 0x10 byte. > > > Have a nice day :) > > Thomas > >
