On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:55 AM, Karanbir Singh <mail-li...@karan.org> wrote:

> On 01/09/2014 08:34 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:
>> Is this for real? Oracle are apparently a thorn in the side to RH and
>> thus all the changes to C6 that caused lots of delays ...... if this
>> changes as indicated, doesn't that negate all those changes and give
>> Oracle a leg up to getting their clone to market sooner?
>> I guess I'm missing something
> 
> I really dont know how oracle's linux rebuild effort works - but as far
> as I -do- know, the sources are available at the same time to everyone
> right ? its a case of what you do with them and how you do it.
> 
> Also, i think people are reading too far into the delays for C6 were
> caused by redhat - it was also down to limited resources, machines, time
> and almost no QA infra at .centos.org  :: that contributed quite a lot.
> Things that we have overcome and built up in the last few years.
> 
> Might also be worth noting that we have a centos7beta up internally
> already.
> 
> Look at it another way - we are not working with the RHEL teams, we are
> working with the RH open source and standards team ( that has no real
> input into RHEL ) - to expand what we do with the platform, rather than
> carry on with the single focus of the platform. And I think being more
> open and more community driven, we -can- improve across the board.
> 
At this point I really don't see why RedHat doesn't just offer RHEL + updates + 
extra channels for free and then only charge for support. This would put them 
on a real equal ground with Canonical.  It would save money and time freeing up 
all the duplicated effort of ripping out all the redhat logos and rebuilding 
the core OS and then rebuilding all the updates. The core CentOS team and 
volunteers working on CentOS would be freed up and could focus their effort on 
extending third party open source projects mentioned earlier in the thread to 
work better with RHEL. Just my 2 cents. In any case, this is interesting news. 
Ever since the CentOS team got everything going smoothly for CentOS 6.x 
version, my biggest concern was Redhat’s continued use of extra paid for 
channels like software collections. I hope that things like software 
collections packages start getting timely releases with CentOS too. As always 
thank you so much for all the hard work!

David C Miller.
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