The Contras largely went after military targets, or targets they believed to act in some manner of support of the government. I'm no fan of the Contras or US action in Nicarague, but they were not terrorists. So, you're not being obvious at all.
H. -----Original Message----- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:29 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) yup..and my original point was that it could be argued that US governments, and British governments too, have supported terrorism. The contras were certainly terrorists in the eyes of the elected leader of Nicaragua, and they were financially and militarily supported by the US. I'm not sure how much more obvious you would like it to be? will -----Original Message----- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:25 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) You outline a series of actions that violated US law, but no acts of terroism. H. -----Original Message----- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:16 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Welll...... How about, for starters, the US involvement in Nicaragua with the Contras, whom Reagan himself referred to as 'freedom fighters'? Here is a brief timeline: 1981: The US ends aid to Nicaragua after finding evidence that Nicaragua, Cuba, and the Soviet Union are supplying arms to Salvadorian rebels. 1982: The US House of Representatives passes the Boland Amendment, which prohibits the US from supplying the Nicaraguan Contras (Sandinista opposition forces) with arms for overthrowing the Sandinista government. 1984: The CIA mines Nicaragua's harbors in a covert operation. Both US enemies and allies condemn the action. Nicaragua sues the US in the World Court, and in June 1986 the Court finds the US guilty of violating international law. 1984: Daniel Ortega, leader of the FSLN, is elected president of Nicaragua. 1985: The US suspends talks with Nicaragua. US president Ronald Reagan describes the Nicaraguan contras as "freedom fighters" and compares them to America's founding fathers. Reagan initiates economic sanctions against Nicaragua. The US Congress approves humanitarian aid package for the Nicaraguan Contras. 1986: The Nicaraguan government closes La Prensa, an opposition newspaper. A plane carrying US military supplies to the Contras is shot down and the only American survivor is captured. The US government announces that contrary to the Boland Amendment, the US has been providing military aid to the Nicaraguan Contras. The supplies were purchased with funds diverted form the sale of US arms to Iran. The covert operation became known as the Iran-Contra affair. 1987: Daniel Ortega, the FSLN leader and President, begins a trip to the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe seeking military and economic aid. The US Congress approves 7.7 million in humanitarian aid to the Contras. Peace talks between the Sandinistas and the Contras break down. Ortega confirms rumors that the Soviets plan to supply Nicaragua with more military aid. will -----Original Message----- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:00 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) What examples do you have of US terroism (other than punished war crimes, of which there are a few). Or let me refine further -- leave out the over zealous actions of individual soliders, whether punished or not. H. -----Original Message----- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:52 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Quite...one man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter etc etc..... Incidentally, there is a historical precedent for the American, and no doubt British, governments supporting so called terrorists, except that no doubt then they weren't terrorists at all.......# will -----Original Message----- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 16:42 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) >They (the Palistinians) are the terrorists. Surely the issue of whether they are terrorists depends on your perspective of the situation? I'm not condoning anything, its just an observation -----Original Message----- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 16:45 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) The fault of those dead prists and nuns lies squarely with the Palistinians (and I see a post from MD saying it didn't happen, citing a credible news source). They (the Palistinians) are the terrorists. They have brought it on with their totally unjustified suicide bombings. Israel is acting in self defense. To call Israel actions terrorism is to totally twist the English language and shows a profound disrespect for all that is honorable and just. If Israeli actions creates more suicide bombers than that only demonstrates the total lack of intelligence and morals among the Palistinians. Why do you persist in defending such utterly depraved actions? H. -----Original Message----- From: mo mansour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:14 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) >How can Israel be wrong when all it is trying to do is defend its citizens >against immoral attacks? H. And blowing up people and detaining and terrorizing, and starvation,and cutting off the basic human needs to exist and executing who they want and leaving nothing undestroyed in their path is moral ? so you are fighting terrorism with even harsher terrorism and against all the people, that is what is moral and definding yourself...how many more suicide bombers you think this has creatd ? Bethlaham where all the killing is going on today, is mostly all christians and catholics...... A Catholic priest has been killed and at least six nuns have been wounded during fighting in the West Bank town of Bethlehem. http://www.rte.ie/news/2002/0402/mideast.html You think that the priest and those nuns put up a "fair fight" ? tanks and machine guns against an old priest and nuns, i think thats fighting terrorism...sure...Sadly, the death toll in Betlaham is now reported as higher than those killed in Ramallah.... like I said, the news usualy take an extra day to make the headlines here, but eventualy it does... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
