Probably because you started cursing them out and ot what they saw as
becoming or on your way to becoming violent.  Personal responsibility Tim...

-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 7:15 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a
platform...


As for denial of medical care, think what you want, I've been escorted off
site more than once by VA police.  This layers time the doctor told me she
would not see me after I asked why she didn't give me refills of my required
antibiotics.  I've already dealt with the patient advocate and the office of
the inspector General.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
On Jun 1, 2014 5:07 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com>
wrote:

>
> Bullshit Tim.  You have only been experiencing the VA for a couple of 
> years.
> I first started going to the VA when Clinton was in office.  I saw 
> firsthand how it nosedived from day one of the Bush Administration and 
> it fell deep...much like our economy fell deep thanks to him.  Not 
> only did Bush rape the funding for the VA, which would have caused 
> some problems on their own, with the introduction of 2 wars, he also 
> exponentially increased the number of people relying on the VA for 
> services.  Add to that the rape of the economy which added even more 
> burden to the VA, I am surprised we get as good of a service as we do 
> out of the VA.  Quit whining that you are getting denied shit because 
> you broke the law.  While I disagree with pot being illegal...if you 
> want to break the law and use it anyway, then that is on you and you 
> alone.  Take responsibility for your own actions.  You are not 
> prohibited by law from maintaining gainful employment.  You will lose 
> some of the free benefits if you reach a certain income level.  You 
> are not being denied shit.  I am also going to call bullshit on being 
> denied medical care.
> You cannot be refused medical care.  That is illegal.  All veterans 
> are eligible for care at the VA...you do not have to be rated or 
> disabled.  The scale it based on whether or not you are disabled and 
> sevice connected and if not, then it is based on income on what you 
> have to pay as far as copays for visits and prescriptions.
>
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 2:02 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform 
> as a platform...
>
>
> Only eight of those years are thanks to Bush.
>
> If you don't want the job don't apply for it.  We're pretty deep into 
> the second term to still be blaming the last guy.
>
> You are taking out your ass about the VA.
>
> While the health care issues are regional, due to the way the VA is 
> organized, the problems on the benefits (VBA) side are equally insane, 
> with huge backlogs and major civil rights violations all over.
>
> The surveys themselves are conducted internally, I have no faith in 
> them what so ever, this organization is riddled with inefficiency and 
> corruption.
>
> The rules are totally different for us, forever.  Your HIPPA 
> protections don't exist for us.  Our 4th and 5th amendment rights 
> basically don't exist, our private medical information, including 
> therapy notes and shit, is freely shared with federal law enforcement, 
> without a warrant.  My property has been stolen, without a warrant, my 
> home searched, with out a warrant.
>
> I've been detained multiple times.  Local officers have lied to my 
> neighbors and told them I have warrants, but I haven't even been 
> accused of a crime.
>
> I'm prohibited by law from "maintaining gainful employment" because 
> I'm too nutty to work, bit I'm denied ssdi based off doctors records 
> that I smoke pot.  So I don't get half of what I'm supposed to, and 
> now in even being refused medical care for staph and MRSA because my 
> doctor screwed up my meds and appointments, and lied in my record to 
> cover her mistake.
>
> It takes an average of 45-60 to see your primary care doctor here, 
> longer to get to a specialist, but you can't be scrolled for the 
> specialist without a referral from primary care, so you're looking at 
> a four month minimum wait to see a specialist.
>
> Something a lot of outsiders miss is that the VA is scaled.  The vast 
> majority of people who have earned it don't use it, even those who do 
> use it mainly use it as part of their health care, and aren't rated 
> and disabled at all.
>
> The real problems in the system begin when you are rated at 30% and 
> they start becoming involved in every aspect of your life.
>
> The clinics are well funded, the medical staff is mainly top notch, 
> with the exception of the many foreign doctors, who often do not have 
> the empathy and cultural awareness this situation requires, and lack a 
> respect for the special nature if their customer base.  The main 
> problem on the health care side is in administrators.
>
> The VA is the epitome of a federal bureaucracy run amok.  The 
> administrators are bitter, entitled, king term government employees 
> who know how hard it is to get fired.  It often seems add though there 
> job is denial of services, and it is.  This is an attitude that was 
> fostered after Vietnam die to large scale fraud by veterans and liars 
> that has since been stamped out.  Now it serves to save them money.
>
> Many veterans refuse to use VA health care it other benefits due to 
> the Times and difficulties involved, and the impacts on the 
> individual.  For many years it's seemed like this has been a coordinated
effort.
>
> Christ the evil deranged domestic terrorist combat veteran is now a 
> media talking point, even if a statistical anomaly.
>
>
>
>
> 



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