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These laws punish the majority for the crimes of the minority. Our right to own arms should obviously outweigh any made up right to feel safe anyone has. Why not an amendment? If it's such a great and popular idea why not amend the condition in the manner prescribed? On Jun 13, 2014 12:26 AM, "Judah McAuley" <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: > > And you are dead wrong. > > There is nothing absolute. You have the right to free speech, but not the > right to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. You have the right to defend > your person, but not the right to kill someone because you think they might > be a threat in the future. Over and over and over again...rights are not > absolute. Rights exist within the context of other rights and they are > often times opposed to one another. > > You have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (as we > discuss Natural Rights). So do I. What if my Pursuit of Happiness conflicts > with your Liberty? > > There are rights and there are inevitably interpretations. I know that > you'd love to have everything in the Constitution and Natural Law be plain > as day in every single damn case, but that is not reality and never has > been, in the history of our country or anywhere else. That's why we have a > political system and a legal system, even though you hate it. > > As Oliver Wendell Holmes said: "The right to swing my fist ends where the > other man's nose begins." > > Get off your high horse and engage with reality, Tim. > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:59 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I disagree. > > > > I think absolute, endowed by our creator, natural > > > > They describe the same thing. > > > > Birth right. > > > > But even then, like I said, amend the constitution. Do it right. Define > > the right better. > > > > Otherwise the first and forth and fifth through eighth and fourteenth > mean > > nothing at all. > > > > We have an amendment process. > > On Jun 12, 2014 11:53 PM, "Judah McAuley" <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey, Tim, quick reminder: Rights are not absolute. > > > > > > None of them. Not a single damn one, enumerated in the Constitution or > > > otherwise amongst the laws deemed Natural. > > > > > > I am a hard core supporter of the 4th Amendment. And the 1st. We've got > > > some agreement in those areas. Still, however, they are not absolute. > > They > > > exist within a context where rights and responsibilities are, at times, > > > opposed to one another. That is a matter for law, government, and > > society. > > > > > > Your fetishization of the 2nd Amendment has pushed it beyond reason, > to a > > > state where it is considered absolute. That is wrong. It was never that > > > way, in the minds of the Framers or any reasonable leader since. You've > > > lost site of what makes our country great. Get some perspective, dude. > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:04 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Totally screwing up the market in the process. > > > > > > > > Applying pressure on banks to not service gun related businesses. > > > > > > > > Look at what the ATF has been doing to Aires arms, who operates > totally > > > > with in the law. In that specific case the ATF have no legal > authority > > > to > > > > do what they're doing, in effect they are the criminals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:370906 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
