In vindication of what Dave said but also in glorious praise of what CF can do and heavens knows what will be able to do and hopefully as a help to someone somewhere....
We were tasked to take a legacy accounting/billing system, mainframe based (IBM 3270) with a DB2 database, running OS/2 via Smalltalk and rebuild the whole thing in ColdFusion. The original app had almost non-existent documentation (I know that's unusual!) and had been reverse engineered as best as could be before we started. Smalltalk is basically an object orientated language and is more of a client-server paradigm. We are being greatly successful, we are on time (it's a long 12-month project the original app lists all the Gas piping and meters for the whole of Southern California) and we will finish on time - on budget. We have turned cartwheels, danced around really weird database designs with multiple occurrences of the same data sometimes in as many as 15 different tables. I could go on and on, the bottom-line point being, we have done all of this using a simple little vastly underrated giant of an environment called ColdFusion, and ODBC DB2 client and JavaScript. Lastly we used FuseBox and as a result of my comfort with that methodology we also built a tool that is allowing use to create documentation as we develop and code using FuseDocs as the foundation for that. For all the non believers out there it can be done in ColdFusion it really CAN! Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO Webapper http://www.webapper.com Downey CA Office "Webapper - Making the NET work" -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF and "Business Logic > I doubt he can back up his statement...I've never encountered > anything that couldn't be done from a business logic standpoint > with ColdFusion. Well, when you start looking at higher-end applications, there are lots of things that CF can't do by itself, and in many cases, other platforms let you do those sorts of things. For example, building truly distributed applications requires the ability to run distributed transactions, and to have asynchronous message handling, and the ability to connect to legacy data not accessible via ODBC. CF doesn't directly support any of this, although you can work around all of these issues. The J2EE platform supports this kind of stuff out of the box, as does the MS platform via COM/COM+/MTS/MSMQ/.NET/etc. However, for most applications, this stuff just isn't needed, and it's a lot easier and cheaper to use CF in that case. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
