Well said Jesse. The funny thing is that most of the people complaining during those threads have problems with JDBC, which is not directly related to MM/CFMX (but more to third party JDBC drivers or M$ implementation)... SQL Server 7 is getting very old right now (and it's a M$ product), so I would not be surprised if it has some problems with JDBC.
CFMX is a GREAT product and works extremely well (for a V1.0!). Of course, there is some minor "pure CF" issues but all of them have easy workarounds. I will NEVER go back to CF5. CFCs and Flash Remoting have an incredible potential and offer so many great new possibilities. People also have to think about "what they can do now"... (which was impossible with CF5-) Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com -----Message d'origine----- De : Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : mercredi 9 octobre 2002 14:48 À : CF-Talk Objet : The Myth of Bugs (Was Huge Ungainly thread of Doom) All- Funny, I should stop sleeping. I wanted to take a moment to address something that is bothering me a great deal. Out of the huge thread yesterday, there came a lot of realizations that Macromedia is currently examining internally, misconceptions if you will about the way MM communicates things. Make no mistake, these issues are being discussed, as Sean and Vernon have both mentioned. However, one of the things that bothered me the most was the fact several people basically said: "OH NOES! CFMX is poop! I won't buy/run it until all of these horrible bugs are fixed". This is what I refer too as the "Myth of Bugs". I think something many people are forgetting is the scenario of a mailing list, or the forums. This is the scenario that discourses the fact that mainly the only people who will post to forums, and mailing lists in a typical day are those who have issues. Now, if I read cf-talk on $RAND day, I could safely assume that CFMX was crippled, a lame-duck to the market. Does this assumption make it true? No. It bothers me to hear people say that they will not even try CFMX out because there are "so many" show stopping issues. I would beg the argument that this is far, very far, from the truth. Those of you "dropping" CFMX or completely ignoring it because of the debates/issues raised on CF-Talk and the Forums would be better served if you actually downloaded and ran your application yourself, instead of taking the "word" of the mailing lists and forums. CFMX, as has been stated before, was the *most* tested version of ColdFusion *ever* put on market, I can't make this clear enough. I would imagine that some of the "show stopper" issues that are being raised have either been addresses, will be address, or are simply environmental. I would also state that the only people who raise the "CFMX is Poop" flag are those who have hit a bug, or other issue, which is show stopping to *them*. Remember, hundreds of people download CFMX daily (we have the numbers that show this) and run it without issue. *of COURSE* those people who run into any type of problem are immediately going to identify that problem as a "show stopper" and post to the mailing lists and the forums screaming as loud as they can to hopefully either find a solution or get Macromedia to help them "for free". I can only stress that those of you reading these lists and the forums take everything you see with a grain of salt. Not everyone is running into these issues, everyone is not "throwing CFMX out the window". We have *many* customers running CFMX in production, under load, daily, fine. If you install CFMX, and you run it, and you find an issue, I cannot stress enough that you contact support *immediately* to get that issue addressed ASAP. I will not admit that the ColdFusion team (myself included) shipped "Poop". I will not admit to having wasted nearly two years of my life, I know this is *not* the case. I personally believe that the "firestorms" shown on this list, and the forums, are not the rule, but rather the exception to the rule. Please, try it out *for yourselves* before passing judgment. Sorry for ranting, it bothers me. A lot. Jesse Noller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Macromedia Server Development "No concept man forms is valid unless he integrates it without contradiction into the sum of his knowledge." - Ayn Rand ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
