I don't think that the question should be "CFForm is good or bad?".
It should be "Does it answer to your needs?".

If you don't need more validation capabilites, you should go for CFForm
"automatic" JS validation.
If you find them too limited, then go for "manual" JS validation.

My 0.02€...

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Envoyé : mardi 11 février 2003 19:34
> À : CF-Talk
> Objet : Re: CFFORM vs FORM
>
>
> very true
> just hard to argue with Ben
> personally I haven't bothered learning the cfform tags but after
> I read that
> I am compelled to try it out.
> not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone just thought I would mention it.
> but then again don't listen to be (see below, loll)
>
>
> dave
> <!--- doesn't know jack about cfm --->
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "charlie griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: CFFORM vs FORM
>
>
> > Dave Lyons writes:
> >
> > > I distinctly remember reading in Ben Forta book cfwack, that
> this issue
> was
> > > brought up and he cleared said that it was a very good tag to use.
> > >
> > > if need be I will flip through and try to find the wording if
> necessary
> >
> > If that is in fact Ben's opinion, he's entitled to it (just as we all
> are).
> >
> > He may have recommended it because it can arguably 'speed up'
> > development...but I think the costs (not learning) are too high
> a price to
> > pay for that small convenience.
> >
> > $0.02.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Charlie Griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: CFFORM vs FORM
> > >
> > >
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:42 AM
> > >> Subject: RE: CFFORM vs FORM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > well, that makes sense for someone proficient in js :)
> > >> > for those of us who arent, it really is a blessing.
> > >> >
> > >> > NOTICE TO ALL WHO ARE NOT HIGHLY PROFICIENT IN JS
> > >> > CFMX AND CFFORM TAGS ARE OK !!!!
> > >>
> > >> I could not disagree with this statement more.
> > >>
> > >> For the record, I've not yet played with MX...but my
> comments speak to
> the
> > >> usage of cfform in general.
> > >>
> > >> 1) You are a professional Web Developer (or some such title that
> implies
> > > the
> > >> same).  If you're not proficient in js, learn it or risk
> falling behind
> > > the
> > >> curve.
> > >>
> > >> 2) cfform can only do so much.  Can you compare two field
> values to see
> if
> > >> they're equal?  Can you say, 'if this field has a value then
> this field
> > >> cannot'?  Can you do anything past the basic validation?  By learning
> JS,
> > >> you give yourself that ability.  By relying on cfform, you are very
> > > limited
> > >> in what you can do.
> > >>
> > >> 3) If you truly think having CF do the work for you (in
> generating its
> own
> > >> JS) is 'a blessing'...you are very wrong.  It's a curse because it
> coaxes
> > >> you in to a false sense of security while others around you
> are moving
> > >> forward with javascript and learning numerous other things
> that can be
> > >> accomplished with js.  you will always be limited to
> checking to see if
> a
> > >> field is empty.  or if it's numeric.  ooooh.  blessing.
> > >>
> > >> Not trying to come down on you.  But since you stood on the
> soapbox and
> > >> yelled to the world that it's 'OK' to be in this field (Web
> Development)
> > > and
> > >> not be profieient in JS...well, that's your opinion and
> you're entitled
> to
> > >> it.  My opinion is that if you don't know XHTML, XML,
> JavaScript, CSS,
> and
> > >> at least one server side scripting language (CF, ASP, JSP, etc)...and
> are
> > >> content to know less...then you're in for a rude awakening.
> > >>
> > >> Just my $0.02.
> > >>
> > >> Charlie
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> 
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