Thursday, July 17, 2003, 1:31:31 PM, you wrote: ksc> What if I don't want the default value?
ksc> How do I change the size of the texbox? ksc> How do I change the maxlength of the textbox? ksc> How do I attach JavaScript to the textbox? Come on...you know as well as I do what the answers to these questions are. input.cfm defines default value, whether or not it is a string of 0 length or not is up to the logic in input.cfm and nowhere else. Same with the size, maxlength, and js events. I see nothing you mention that requires one bit of code in the UI layer in CF. >> I see your point, asp.net almost forces developers to separate ui from >> logic. It's entirely possible to go 100% inline with asp.net, but you >> wont find a tutorial or book that shows how to do it anywhere. ksc> Huh? All you need to know is what codebehind is. Maybe MM needs to invent a new term for cfimport and market it as a new innovation that the world has never seen... ksc> I think >> it's possible to create an asp.net and MX UI layer that look nearly >> indistinguishable, even to the trained eye. ksc> Sure it is. But tell me that writing something like http://www.infragistics.com/expense won't be a major hassle using CF. It wouldn't be a major hassle in CF, and would take less time to develop. cfquery has a major weakness when dealing with grids generally though in comparison to ADO, but nothing that couldn't be done in the same time, just differently. Is that a built in asp grid? If so...I have so significant usability issues with it that would preclude me from ever using it, otherwise it's an impressive feat. Still I could make a dhtml grid that would be more usable imo...not to mention all the flash grids out there. ksc> I think it's ironic how >> tag based asp.net is... ksc> I'm not surprised at all. I'm suprised it took them this long. >> >> My biggest problem with asp.net is the fact that they try extremely >> hard to force the developer to develop exactly the way they think is >> best. Some parts of asp.net are very nice, I just think they went too >> far... ksc> Eh? If you want to code "the old way", go right ahead. There's nothing stopping you from putting inline stuff everywhere, and completely ignoring the event model. I prefer the "what works" way. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4