Afaik, there never has been any information that CF would provide developers to build that stunning RIA you are talking about. Don't blame that on Macromedia, nofi but blame it on yourself. You are responsible for your own information, with 3 years you should already know that you can't snap you vingers and voila a purple application with a golden edge pops out of the box. For everything you do on the web and to be on the edge of web development you need to invest more time than just learning CF, this has always been the case and has never been different. Sorry if some parts sound rude, it is not meant to... Micha ________________________________
From: Dwayne Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 5/2/2005 11:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? As I've said or implied for more than 3 years on this list. COLDFUSION NEEDS A NEW OWNER. Point Blank. I rate there management of the product line over the last few years as an B. It's clear that there are way more Macromedia Guys in the Board Rooms and server as Business Unit Directors. I still now people running on off Coldfusion 4.5 and 5.0. That's totally Macromedias Fault and RIA has been around for a minute. They promised that CF developers will have easier tools to integrate with Flash but what did we get. Flex. I still have to learn Flash to build any kind of stunning RIA. Now hear we are more than 3 years after the big RIA push. I said on this list that CF developers would deliver the RIA revolution before the Flash "desigerners" and flash "animators". And I was right. If RIA delivered what they thought they would not be Adobe now. Cool tools, steap learning curves, and little skills are transferable. Lets face it the number of the shelf cfc components that work with flash is really, really slim compare to the old Allair Exchange site. Just my 2 cent. Dwayne Cole ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Kevin Aebig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:54:31 -0600 >Well said. Also, considering the shift in the marketing at MM, its not >surprising that they're moving towards selling to business users and not >developers. > >They've already carved out their niche to developers as being the #1 honcho >when it comes to web development tools. Face it, even if they converted the >whole site to be one big banner for Flash, almost everyone on this list >would still use CF. > >With alot of their newest products being specifically for business users, >its not surprising that they've chosen to put up a little eye candy... > >Kevin > >---------- >http://www.keslabs.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:52 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? > >If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're >doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent >products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about >selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of >thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no >matter how good or popular it is. > >Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that >Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing >that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed >on practically everybody's computer. > >And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM >site. I don't know how long it was there, though. > >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software >http://www.figleaf.com/ > >Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized >instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, >Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. >Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205329 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
