Additionally, learning Javascript when in a web appllication world, can only
improve your capabilities and employablity.... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

Seems like you're doing more work trying to avoid work.

- Matt Small

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

Thanks for the insights, Barney...

Question:  Can an inline frame be setup to trigger another iframe when some
action is performed that triggers it?

Not clear, I know...so...a scenario...

Three iframes on a page...click on a link in first frame, second frame
responds, and causes third frame to respond....like a chain reaction.  If
so, would this substitute for concurrency?

Rick



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:38 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web 
> applications?
>
>
> The biggest problem with using frames is concurrency.  You can't do 
> more than one thing at a time (unless you have two frames, then it's 
> two things at a time), which can be very troubling.  With Flash and JS 
> remoting you can perform multiple concurrent actions, which is very 
> useful.  You also get the capability to pass complex data fairly 
> easily, and move a lot of your UI logic to the client-side, which 
> results in a far better user experience.
>
> And don't think you can use inline frames without JS.  When the frame 
> loads, you have to parse out the content that you need, and then 
> rebuild the visible document with that new content.
>
> cheers,
> barneyb
>
> On 10/27/05, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi, all...
> >
> > I've been interested in building web applications that don't require 
> > a page refresh for a few years now.  First Iooked at Flash...didn't 
> > like it a few versions ago...and still don't.  Don't want to work 
> > with the Flash GUI or learn ActionScript.
> >
> > Now, along comes AJAX...everyone's excited.  But upon further 
> > examination, to use it I've got to learn Javascript and other
> technologies
> > about which I know virtually nothing.  (And no...I don't have a 
> > market at this time that would justify the effort)
> >
> > My question is this...why not just use inline frames (as someone 
> > mentioned recently as their method for building applications)
> to simulate
> > "non-page refreshing" apps?
> >
> > I've used them a little, but not a lot, so I'd like some feedback on 
> > what the drawbacks are to building apps using inline frames...I
> can stick
> > to Cold Fusion and HTML alone...no Javascript, no 
> > Actionscript...sounds good to me.
> >
> > Can anyone point me to some online examples of significant inline 
> > frames usage to build apps?
> >
> > What am I missing?
> >
> > Thanks for any feedback and guidance...
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
> --
> Barney Boisvert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 360.319.6145
> http://www.barneyb.com/
>
> Got Gmail? I have 100 invites.
>
> 





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