yes, plugins are configure()d before anything else. This way you can
pass values to listeners + filters via the prop mgr.

-Dave

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/04 7:09 PM >>>
Thank you very much - that also helps me to better understand how/why a
plugin is used.  I remember reading in one of the docs somewhere that if
you
needed to do something before or after an event to use a plugin but it
didn't really sink in at the time.  I see that the user facade is
instantiated here as well - very cool.  Does the framework just
magically
know to do these first because it is listed in the xml file as a plugin?
I'm still not quite seeing the big picture yet but I think I'm getting
closer.

Thanks again.

Kirk

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