Interesting reads, however a bit pushy on the "I'm right" stance. However I have to wonder... it OO really a good way to go? I'll preface by saying I've studied OO (java), though never had a chance to use it due to budget and time constraints (read: I'm inexperienced and that would drag the projects out for months on end..) So I've developed the following opinions for OO on projects: OO's fine if you: have a lot of expertise in it and write applications you host OO's fine if you: will need to use common objects (get from db, store in db, look up customer, get site details) OO's not fine if you: have a big project that needs to be on time, bug free and you don't have much experience in it OO's not fine if you: are building small custom internal applications I guess I've always been up against the fact that I'm the only developer here and have to show results and no excuses. So I've been shy on the CF OO thing because it seemed like such a monumental effort, maybe that's where these guys are comming from.. "high pressure, high stress, I don't have time"..Brent Nicholas - "There, I guess King George will be able to read that!" - John Hancock
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cfcdev@cfczone.org> Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] Tom > Minderson and anti-OO> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:07:25 -0400> > Yeah, I read > a bit of that. I also think Minderson responded to that. He> noted that it > was very one sided.> > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Peddle> Sent: Wednesday, August > 29, 2007 4:49 PM> To: cfcdev@cfczone.org> Subject: Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson > and anti-OO> > Some anti - oo here: > http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/oopbad.htm> > > > Justin Treher wrote:> >> > > I was browsing around some old OO ColdFusion posts and saw a lot of > > > talk by "Tom MInderson". It seems like he has about 50 posts spread > > out > (by doing a quick Google search). They all pretty much say the > > same > thing:> >> > OO complicates things for datacentric applications that > ColdFusion is > > targeting. I.e. we don't control cars or automatic garage > doors. Then > > he goes on about this "Set Theory".> >> > The only thing I > could find on set theory with Coldfusion was at > > > http://cfdj.sys-con.com/read/41826_p.htm> >> > . the most complex ColdFusion > article ever.> >> > Is anyone familiar with his anti-web app OOP mission? Do > his arguments > > have any validity? What the heck is set theory programming? > I felt > > like I was stepping back into philosophy 101 with syllogisms.> >> > > I do see his point that trying to map objects to a relational database > > > is where OOP starts to feel really unnatural. In addition, with the > > > business objects we deal with, it seems unnatural for them to have > > > behaviors, unlike a car being able to "start()".> >> > Justin> >> >> > You > are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the > > instructions > at http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm> >> > CFCDev is supported by:> > > Katapult Media, Inc.> > We are cool code geeks looking for fun projects to > rock!> > www.katapultmedia.com> >> > An archive of the CFCDev list is > available at > > www.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org > > > You are > subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions> at > http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm> > CFCDev is supported by:> Katapult > Media, Inc.> We are cool code geeks looking for fun projects to rock!> > www.katapultmedia.com> > An archive of the CFCDev list is available at> > www.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org> > > > -- > No virus found in this > incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus > Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007> 4:29 PM> > > > > You are > subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions at > http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm> > CFCDev is supported by:> Katapult > Media, Inc.> We are cool code geeks looking for fun projects to rock!> > www.katapultmedia.com> > An archive of the CFCDev list is available at > www.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org> You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions at http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm CFCDev is supported by: Katapult Media, Inc. We are cool code geeks looking for fun projects to rock! www.katapultmedia.com An archive of the CFCDev list is available at www.mail-archive.com/cfcdev@cfczone.org
