Webfairy, You mean all of your posts with wiolawa72 and the smith brothers coughdrop scalar weapons platform and the solarized reptilians are gone!!!
How dare they! I once let Kris know that when you and T Casey Brennan did your web enabled rondezvous that I felt like a passerby watching a shopping bag lady and a derelict making out in an alley. So how's Sean McBride treating you? Mcurb... --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps Bob is embarrassed to have contribuited the information about > Harbo to the No Planes Movement. > It certainly is a clue that they had planned the Small Plane Hangout > from the beginning. > > Will the CIA-Drugs archives at sitbot.net recover from the attempt to > Orwellize by removing my posts? > The roughly 3000 posts I made are now archived at > http://thewebfairy.com/911/cia-drugs > which isn't as pretty as sitbot.net, but more useful, lately. > > RoadsEnd wrote: > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > >> *From: *Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >> *Date: *July 3, 2005 7:51:52 PM PDT > >> *To: *undisclosed-recipients:; > >> *Subject: **[cia-drugs] How Holmgren distorts evidence* > >> *Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:cia- [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > >> Lt Col Art Holbo's nazi hoes are taking Joel Sucherman > >> out of the video where he stands with Mike Walter and > >> completes Walter's testimony. I see Mike Walter point > >> to the Rt 27 overpass a few feet away, give his account, > >> then Joel Sucherman takes over to describe the crash. > >> Funny, Gerard Holmgren and Brian Gumbel are nowhere > >> to be seen. Similar to the DVD where the fire hose or > >> foam spray obscures the wing hole in the Pentagon > >> west wall, while Holbo's devotee narrates that the > >> hole(the upper fuselage hole) is too small for AA77, > >> the Boeing 757 which was seen to crash there. Are > >> you tired of fuzzy bin Laden videos and bloodless > >> beheading videos and planeless small plane videos? > >> Well Holmgren has a Sucherman-Walter video for > >> you with no Joel Sucherman in it, but a lot of some > >> fuzzy, bloodless, plane-less spin doctor in it. > >> > >> Nothing is left to the prurient imagination unless you > >> take Joel Sucherman out of the video. They walk the > >> very ground, on camera, about which Gerard Holmgren > >> meanly puffs and poses in his pedantic effort to fulfil > >> propaganda officer Holbo's deepest yearnings and > >> wildest fantasies. Or, to use his metaphor, Holmgren > >> "cherrypicks" by choosing to hear from Walter alone, > >> not Sucherman and Walter in tandem, when they are > >> featured in the same video, walking the ground > >> together about which Holmgren and Ibid Ferry > >> feign to inform us. > >> > >> That's the local DC channel 9 Eyewitness news video > >> from minutes after the crash, where Lt Col Art Holbo, > >> USAF propaganda officer, preps for his nazi ho Pentagon > >> small-plane Big Lie security cam video which could not > >> be released until FBI mopped up all local area security > >> cam videos, USAF's small plane vid showing us as much > >> small plane as a Nick Berg beheading shows blood, then > >> these nazi hoes suck Holbo's toes by "cherry-picking" > >> which videos, which witnesses from the same frame, > >> as we have to put up with Ibid Ferry's life of federal > >> corruption coverup. > >> > >> Do not forsake me, oh my darling, > >> ever blinkered nightful nazi hoes, > >> for whom your tumbrels really roll. > >> > >> Blinkered night his window broke. > >> More HMX from sidewalk nazi hoes, > >> shanghai sunshine willing no one. > >> > >> ...Bring It On. > >> > >> -Bob > >> > >> Rosalee Grable wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/154107#154726 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> How Hoffman distorts evidence > >>> by *Gerard Holmgren* > >>> .......... > >>> Mike Walter's account: > >>> > >>> I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings. It went right there and > >>> slammed right into the Pentagon. > >>> while leaving out the earlier part of his account: > >>> I looked out my window and I saw this plane, this jet, an American > >>> Airlines jet, coming. And I thought, 'This doesn't add up, it's really > >>> low.' > >>> In the context of his full account, it is clear that Walter was using > >>> "cruise missile with wings" to describe the way the plane was being > >>> flown, not the kind of plane he saw. ]]......... > >>> > >>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/witness2.html > >>> <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/witness2.html> > >>> <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/witness2.html> > >>> > >>> Below is a summary of what my research on Walter found, but I recommend > >>> reading the link above to get the full picture > >>> > >>> Hoffman says "In the context of his full account..." > >>> > >>> And exactly *which* full account would that be, Jim ? > >>> > >>> Perhaps the one where he told Bryant Gumbel that he saw a full on > >>> impact, > >>> > >>> ""I was on an elevated area of Highway 27 and I had a very good view. I > >>> was stuck in traffic. We weren't moving and--and I could see over in > >>> the > >>> distance the American Airlines jet as it kind of banked around, pivoted > >>> and then took a steep dive right into the Pentagon." > >>> > >>> and then when Gumbel responded with > >>> > >>> GUMBEL: Did you see it hit the Pentagon? Was the plane coming in > >>> horizontally or did it, in fact, go on its wing as--as it impacted the > >>> building? > >>> > >>> To which Walter responded with > >>> > >>> Mr. WALTER: You know, the--the--the--there were trees there that > >>> kind of > >>> obstructed it, so I kind of--I saw it go in. I'm not sure if it turned > >>> at an angle. I've heard some people say that's what it did. All I know > >>> is it--it created a huge explosion and massive fireball and-- and you > >>> knew instantaneously that--that everybody on that plane was dead. It > >>> was > >>> completely eviscerated. " > >>> > >>> So Walter's claim to have seen the plane hit the building lasted all of > >>> 5 secs before he backed off the claim. > >>> > >>> And just to make sure, later in the interview > >>> > >>> GUMBEL: Tell me, if you could, about the manner in which the-- the plane > >>> struck the building.... > >>> > >>> Mr. WALTER: Well, as I said, you know, there were trees obstructing my > >>> view, so I saw it as it went--and then the--then the trees, and then I > >>> saw the--the fireball and the smoke. Some people have said that the > >>> plane actually sent on its side and in that way. But I can't tell you, > >>> Bryant. I just know that what I saw was this massive fireball, a huge > >>> explosion and--and a--the thick column of smoke and then an absolute > >>> bedlam on those roads as people were trying to get away." > >>> > >>> Now you see it (hit), now you don't. > >>> > >>> Or did Jim mean the full account he gave in another interview, only 1 > >>> hour later, where he said > >>> > >>> "It kind of disappeared over this embankment here for a moment and then > >>> a huge explosion, flames flying into the air, and--and just chaos on > >>> the > >>> road." > >>> > >>> So he was in an elevated area with a very good view and saw a full on > >>> impact, which he actually didn't see at all because there were trees in > >>> the way, but in spite of his elevation and very good view it > >>> "disappeared" over an embankment - which is actually what he had been > >>> saying the day before anyway, before he changed his mind the next > >>> day in > >>> the Gumbel interview,and then immediately backed off, and 1 hour later > >>> went back to his story of the previous day, where he explicitly stated > >>> that he did not see it hit the building. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ > >> > >> Please let us stay on topic and be civil. > >> > >> OM > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > >> YAHOO! 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