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"that breach and another on the London Canal were being left open because water was draining back into the lake" If water was draining back into the lake through the breach, that debunks the pendulum-swings-too-far disinfo about a levee sapper ex-SEAL team being shot by police, because they would know that opening a new hole in the levee would only let water out, not in. Feel free to question whether all possible levee breeches would let water out rather than in, but New Orleans police officer Patrick Hartman has put his name on the story of "officers confronting at least seven snipers in a motel near the Danziger Bridge. Police later said the gunmen had been firing on contractors traveling under police escort to repair a levee break" "Initial AP reports had wrongly indicated that the contractors themselves were shot by police" 9/3/2005 on Democracy Now, a New Orleans district attorney being interviewed by Amy Goodman said that only three were killed. Today we hear everywhere about twenty elderly people drowned when a tour boat overturned on Lake George, NY. We can probably find a list of their names, but we still do not know the names of at least fifty-six elderly people killed by FEMA at the New Orleans airport by with-holding food and water for several days. Pastor Toby Nelson, presbyterian minister from California, and doctors Gerhardt and Perlmutter found eighty living people in the FEMA morgue at the New Orleans airport. Another scandal is why did it take another five days to start evacuation through the airport after FEMA set up a morgue to murder living people there. The two non-FEMA doctors ascertained that sixty of those eighty living people in the FEMA morgue ought to be treated, but they could only abscond with four before FEMA locked them out of the Zyklon-B chapel. Those four Sobibor escapees revived when given nothing but a cup of water. Apparently FEMA was their only problem, or was Bechtel charging for water? We heard about this on one TV news show, not on every newspaper front page and news TV show for days. Apparently one out of ten Katrina victims were killed by FEMA putting them into a morgue and not giving them a cup of water for the duration of their thus foreshortened lives. Admittedly the story would have been more newsworthy if the eighty had been sent to the showers and gassed than if they were simply sent to the morgue alive and then denied food and water until just as dead as if by gaseous Phosmet. -Bob http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/04/katrina.impact/ Report: Police shoot gunmenPolice shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on contractors crossing a bridge to make levee repairs, The Associated Press reported. Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley told AP that police shot at eight people who had guns, killing five or six. The incident came as the growing number of authorities attempted to regain control of the flooded city after days of violence and looting that interfered with rescue and recovery efforts. The Army Corps of Engineers told AP that 14 contractors escorted by police were fired upon while crossing the Danziger Bridge, which spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River. Corps spokesman John Hall told AP the contractors were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help fix a breach in the 17th Street Canal. Initial AP reports had wrongly indicated that the contractors themselves were shot by police. At the 17th Street Canal, crews worked to close a 500-foot breach of a levee that allowed Lake Pontchartrain to flood parts of New Orleans. But that breach and another on the London Canal were being left open because water was draining back into the lake.http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-officer
The Unvanquished: A Cop's Story18sep18,1,3402551,print.story?coll=la-headlines-nation&ctrack =1&cset=true September 18, 2005 latimes.com KATRINA'S AFTERMATH It was almost dawn. Patrick Hartman had not slept well. Hurricane Katrina was bearing down on New Orleans, but that's not what disturbed him. He had slept only fitfully since a traumatic shooting three years earlier — and so little these days that his mother feared he was clinically depressed. Weary and sleep-deprived, Hartman got up, ready to get to work. He was a New Orleans police officer. His regular shift wouldn't begin until 4 p.m., but he planned to leave around noon. He had been told that he would be part of a hurricane cleanup crew that evening, after Katrina had passed. Patrick Hartman did not make it to work that day. Hurricane Katrina literally washed him away. It washed away everything stable and prosaic in the life of this Irish American cop, an intensely private and sensitive son of New Orleans. Like the city itself, Hartman was forever altered by what happened that day, by the privations he endured in the days that followed and the decisions he and others were forced to make. The hurricane tested Hartman, 36, and he prevailed, but in a way that left him feeling brittle and unmoored. In many ways, his trials were the trials of an entire city: His home was flooded. He was submerged in fetid floodwaters. He was rescued. He rescued others. He was left bereft and homeless, wearing the same fouled clothing for days. As a member of a police force shattered by the storm, Hartman lived a parallel life. He was both flood victim and working cop. The police chief said 80% of his officers lost homes to the flood, and a third of the 1,740 officers could not, or would not, report for work after Katrina hit. Hartman's police station was flooded. He would have no police cruiser, no radio, no uniform. He and fellow officers hot-wired cars and boats, stole airport shuttle vans and took food and water from looted stores, he said. He was fired on by snipers, even as he rescued people from rooftops. He was involved in the biggest single police action of the flood — the killing of five alleged snipers in crime-ridden New Orleans East. On the night of Sunday, Sept. 4, Hartman said he was summoned to back up officers confronting at least seven snipers in a motel near the Danziger Bridge. Police later said the gunmen had been firing on contractors traveling under police escort to repair a levee break. Hartman said they also shot at rescuers launching boats from a flooded roadway. With police-issued weapons and ammunition in short supply, Hartman said, some officers fired guns and ammunition brought from home. "Everybody brought along their own toys — AK-47s, SKSs [carbines], hunting rifles," he said. After a long shootout, four snipers lay dead and a fifth was mortally wounded, police said. "Bunch of crackheads," Hartman said later. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
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