Bob,

At this point I think Victor is having way too much fun to worry 
about the quality of his work. Mike is doing a very good job 
destroying himself, so why should Victor not just sit back and watch 
it.

  --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "muckblit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Naturally the newspaper and Victor Thorn let this stand:
> 
> "She denies the meth accusation. "I don't know where he comes up 
with me
> being on methamphetamine," she said."
> 
> More of that in a moment. First, check this out:
> 
> '"I made the mistake of not realizing early-on that I was being
> harassed," the woman said in a statement made public by Victor 
Thorn,
> editor of WingTV.net...The woman said she did not
> provide the statement, which outlines the alleged harassment, but a
> friend of hers did. '
> 
> ...so Victor Thorn as well as Mike Ruppert need to take journalism 
101,
> but we don't want any help from the peanut brain gallery i.e. Victor
> Thorn and Robert Plain. Ruppert suggests that street level meth head
> secretary may have played useful idiot on the government supervised
> parole and probation crew of her **METH FELON** boyfriend, a major
> omission by Thorn, Plain, and the METH FELON's stickleg bitch with 
less
> than bewitching gum disease.
> 
> Another major omission was the METH FELON's girlfriend's sexual 
history
> in the office. She cost Ruppert his computer systems administrator 
by
> having sex with him and another co-worker. Spam, cheap shots,
> distractions, trailing off into nowhere with judas goats, have fun.
> 
> And of course Duncan is nowhere to be found when facts are flying. 
He
> and Thorn showed up on time and squatted momentarily in the 
vicinity but
> did not trip over a single fact.
> 
> -Bob
> 
> --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "mark urban" <mcurb@> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.dailytidings.com/2006/0825/stories/0825_ruppert2.php
> >
> >
> >
> > Ashland, Oregon  August 25, 2006
> > 'Wilderness' relocates to Venezeula
> > By Robert Plain
> > Ashland Daily Tidings
> > Mike Ruppert is gone. He left not only Ashland, his new-found
> > hometown, but has denied his allegiance to the United States with 
a
> > reported exodus to Venezuela.
> >
> > "I left the United States with one large suitcase, my laptop, and 
a
> > backpack," he wrote in an article on his Web site. "I left behind 
my
> > precious library, most of my clothing, my personal possessions, my
> > guns, and a house full of furniture. I brought with me less than
> > eight thousand dollars in cash and gold to start the final 
segment of
> > my life."
> >
> > Ruppert is the owner and editor of FromTheWilderness.com, a Web 
site
> > dealing with Peak Oil and alternative Sept. 11 theories. Earlier 
this
> > year he moved to Ashland and quickly drew a local following of
> > supporters. Ruppert played a role in the Jackson County
> > Sustainability Network, a group of some 200 local people who are
> > trying to localize daily life and food production in the area.
> >
> >
> > A few computers, along with boxes, are stacked up in the 
conference
> > room of the From the Wilderness on Washington Street in Ashland.
> >
> > Photo by Orville Hector | Daily Tidings
> >
> > The former Los Angeles beat cop became an independent journalist 
to
> > uncover government conspiracies. According to the article on his 
Web
> > site, he says he has relocated to Venezuela, in part, because of a
> > June burglary at his Ashland office.
> >
> > "It was the final outrage in almost three decades of attempts to
> > silence my voice," he wrote on his Web site, ostensibly from the
> > South American socialist nation.
> >
> > However, one of the founders of the local sustainability network 
says
> > that his recent disappearance raises more questions about the 
man's
> > mental well-being than any of the reasons Ruppert himself cites 
for
> > his departure.
> >
> > "My feeling is he really needed a change in his life," said 
Michael
> > Dawkins, a friend of Ruppert's who also facilitates a support 
group
> > for depression and bi-polar disorder. "I think there is some
> > depression or mania there."
> >
> > A strange burglary
> >
> > Ruppert's brief tenure in Ashland reached a bizarre climax with 
the
> > burglary on June 26. Who committed the crime, and why, remains
> > unsolved.
> >
> > Like the government conspiracy theories he often writes about, his
> > thoughts on the burglary include twists, accusations and of 
course,
> > government persecution.
> >
> > "There will be another time and another place, when I can and will
> > say more about what happened," he wrote on his Web site. "Certain
> > important events have yet to unfold, and I'm holding other key 
facts
> > until the time is right. There are facts about the timing of the
> > burglary that may eventually connect to events here in Venezuela."
> >
> > Ruppert said he believes a former employee, who he had fired weeks
> > for the crime, burglarized his office.
> >
> > The former employee thinks she knows who committed the burglary.
> >
> > "I think he did that himself," she said.
> >
> > Ashland Police are keeping an open mind. Officers would not rule 
out
> > Ruppert himself as a suspect.
> >
> > "At this point the case is still under investigation," Deputy 
Chief
> > Rich Walsh said. "We're looking into both current and ex-
employees."
> >
> > He added, "We'd like to find out what the purpose of moving to
> > Venezuela was. It may have absolutely nothing to do with it but we
> > would like to know."
> >
> > A troubled relationship
> >
> > When interviewed the morning after the alleged burglary, Ruppert 
said
> > he suspected the employee of trying to use his shipping 
department to
> > smuggle methamphetamine.
> >
> > "Her behavior was entirely consistent with meth addiction," he 
said,
> > noting that some of his clues included highly erratic behavior, 
mood
> > swings, poor dental hygiene and her slight figure.
> >
> > According to the woman, who spoke on the condition of anonymity
> > because she fears Ruppert or his allies could try to hurt her, her
> > accusation of sexual harassment caused her dismissal. She denies 
the
> > meth accusation. "I don't know where he comes up with me being on
> > methamphetamine," she said.
> >
> > Both parties admit to engaging in conduct typically deemed
> > inappropriate at the workplace, such as conversations about sexual
> > preferences and other flirtatious behavior.
> >
> > "I made the mistake of not realizing early-on that I was being
> > harassed," the woman said in a statement made public by Victor 
Thorn,
> > editor of WingTV.net. "For a while I was able just to 'laugh it 
off'
> > when such comments came from Mr. Ruppert by telling myself it was
> > just a harmless product of a patriarchal American society."
> >
> > Wing TV is a competing 9-11 conspiracy site. Both Thorn and 
Ruppert
> > describe themselves as internet rivals. The woman said she did not
> > provide the statement, which outlines the alleged harassment, but 
a
> > friend of hers did. The friend, she said, is actually another 
former
> > Ruppert staffer whom she met after leaving From The Wilderness.
> >
> > The morning after the alleged burglary, Ruppert discussed his
> > troubled relationship with the former employee.
> >
> > Ruppert admitted to stripping down to his underpants and parading
> > around the office while he and the woman were the only two there, 
an
> > accusation the woman made in her statement. However, he said his
> > motive wasn't sex but rather an attempt to uncover the 
woman's "con."
> >
> > "I was trying to make her show her hand because I knew she was up 
to
> > something," he said while sitting in his office as Ashland Police
> > surveyed the seven computers that were smashed with a sledge 
hammer
> > in another room. "I needed to cross a line to make her show her
> > hand."
> >
> > When asked if he thought this was a wise move on his part, he
> > said, "I handled it the best way I know how. I may spend the rest 
of
> > my life asking myself that question."
> >
> > Ruppert denies he harassed the woman, but said he was attracted to
> > her.
> >
> > "Was I tempted? Sure. Did I think she was cute? Absolutely."
> >
> > He added, "Nothing she said rises to the level of sexual 
harassment.
> > I'm a 55-year-old, divorced, healthy male who is lonely. Is that a
> > crime?"
> >
> > The woman is afraid of Ruppert and fears he might harm her. She
> > doesn't believe that he is in Venezuela.
> >
> > "I don't know what Ruppert is capable of," she said. "He's 
mental. My
> > mom wants me to move out of town because she doesn't think I'm 
safe
> > here."
> >
> > She said she has reported Ruppert to the state civil rights 
division
> > for sexual harassment but has not pursued criminal charges. She 
says
> > she is still considering a wrongful termination lawsuit against 
him.
> >
> > "I was the wrong female to mess with," she said.
> >
> > The government
> >
> > Ruppert's former employee is not the only one he blames for the
> > alleged burglary. Ruppert also suspects the smashed computers 
might
> > be related to a government plot to ruin him.
> >
> > "Other facts started to indicate government involvement," he 
wrote on
> > his Web site. "As soon as I discovered the burglary I ran next 
door
> > to the offices of the US Forest Service which shares the same
> > building. I asked [an employee] if they had surveillance cameras
> > covering the front of the building and our only parking lot. 
Reacting
> > as though I was scaring her to death, she hastily replied, 'No'. I
> > couldn't help but feel she already knew about the burglary."
> >
> > Indeed, government plots against him have been one of the most
> > consistent aspects to his career as a writer.
> >
> > "My permanent exodus from the U.S. was actually ordained 30 
years ""-
> > to the month ""- before I left for good on July 18th, 2006," he 
wrote
> > on his Web site. "It was thirty years ago that my then-fiancée, a
> > career contract agent for the CIA, disclosed to me that "her 
people"
> > were interested in giving a major boost to my career with LAPD if 
I
> > would become involved with her "anti-terror" operations that
> > involved "overlooking" (i.e. protecting) large drug shipments 
coming
> > in while facilitating the movement of large quantities of firearms
> > going out."
> >
> > According to LAPD documents, he was put on leave until he could 
pass
> > a psychological evaluation.
> >
> > Staff writer Robert Plain can be reached at 482-3456 x. 226 or
> > bplain@
> >
> > Current Comments:
> > sounds like your typical 1% ashlander nutjob.
> > mike hunt - ashland, or - August 25th, 3:53 PM
> > "Like the government conspiracy theories he often writes about, 
his
> > thoughts on the burglary include twists, accusations and of 
course,
> > government persecution."
> >
> >
> > "Like the corpoorate greedheads who pay his salary, staff writer
> > Robert Plain ignores all the facts which do not support his biased
> > attempts to discredit any and all opponents of the current
> > administration."
> > Farquaar - Ashland - August 25th, 3:53 PM
> > Off his meds and on the lam! Gosh, maybe Comrade Hugo will send 
Mad
> > Mike to Iran to team up with Pete Seda! They can trade stories 
about
> > the repression and harassment threatening Ashland!
> > (Hey, Farquaar, Robert Plain and I use our real names on what we
> > write, why don't you?)
> >
> > Rich Kline - Ashland, OR - August 25th, 4:18 PM
> > Wow Farquarr...
> >
> > "Robert Plain ignores the facts which do not support his biased
> > attempts..."
> >
> > Did YOU read Ruppert's last article? That is an extraordinary 
example
> > of that very thing!
> >
> > Give me a break!
> > Jane - Eugene, OR - August 25th, 5:44 PM
> > Ashland is a great place for a guy like Ruppert to thrive. There 
are
> > so many disillusioned leftists living here that they will listen 
and
> > support anything and anyone touting self rightous 
enviromental/anti-
> > government ideas. Any discredit for Ruppert is his own doing. It
> > sounds like he and his wanna be girlfriend were both smoking the
> > bubble (meth pipe).
> > River rain summer - Medford - August 25th, 6:15 PM
> > Off his meds and on the lam! Gosh, maybe Comrade Hugo will send 
Mad
> > Mike to Iran to team up with Pete Seda! They can trade stories 
about
> > the repression and harassment threatening Ashland!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > Many thinking errors. Pete Seda has lost his adopted country, his
> > children, his business, because of government persecution. 
Whatever
> > Mike Ruppert's doing, he's not avoiding a trip to Guantanamo, to
> > slander Pete by association with Chavez is inane.
> > Charles Carreon - Ashland - August 25th, 9:23 PM
> > Farquaar,Ruppert,Pete Seda,Tidings Plain and Green are a just a 
few
> > examples of the many very confused and hateful people that have 
come
> > to Ashland to abuse the hospitatlity of a good community. Ever 
since
> > the Tidings ownership changed,the new Medford owners seem to take
> > delight extending front page status to the ravings of those whose
> > mental stability raises more questions than their political 
views.The
> > more whacked out a view or perspective,the more attention given 
the
> > Tidings. Tabloid news.
> > Kevin - Ashland,OR - August 26th, 3:37 AM
> > Mike and Rich,
> > Don't bother to let your self-serving useless quips to get in the 
way
> > of substance, OK? In fact, just makes something up, pull it out of
> > your warm dark spot, and post it up... it's easier.
> > Phil Wilson - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 5:59 AM
> > I read through Mr. Ruppert's 28,000 word "Farewell" letter. This
> > letter makes much more sense if you look at it in the context of
> > bipolar psychosis (i.e. the grandiose paranoia and persecutory
> > delusions found in his Kristalnacht paragraphs).
> >
> > If Mr. Ruppert is suffering from mental illness then living 
without
> > proper care is dangerous. Moving to a new country without such 
care
> > is extremely dangerous. Hopefully his friends will ensure he gets 
the
> > care he needs so he can live a safe, healthy life
> > Kirk Evenson - Sioux Falls, South Dakota - August 26th, 8:53 AM
> > Good riddance. Now if all the other Ashland wackjobs would follow
> > suit and join him. Kool-aide is waiting.
> > Gymjunkie - Medford, Or. - August 26th, 9:18 AM
> > More and more I see our culture sliding deeper into the abyss.
> > Whenever someone does a brave and difficult act, usually outside 
and
> > against the mainstream of this culture's beliefs, they are 
maligned
> > and discredited. So what if he was "difficult". Most of the 
people in
> > the world worth knowing are difficult. I couldn't care less if he
> > was "mental". I think we're all crazy for being proud these days, 
and
> > our intolerance for anyone like Mike is just a bit too 
conservative
> > and smacks of a mob.
> > Thomas W. - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 10:37 AM
> > Re Michael Ruppert's Ashland Break-In and Fleeing to Venezuela
> >
> > Everybody probably knows about this by now. The Ashland Daily 
Tidings
> > did a front-page piece on it yesterday, slandering Michael 
Ruppert up
> > one way and down another, doing the sleaziest thing a newspaper 
can
> > ever do which is to blame the vandalism on the victim. SCUM, SCUM,
> > SCUM! "There be dragons here in Ashland." Little Miss Innocent 
White
> > City lady is obviously an agent, and the vandalism has U.S.
> > government written all over it. It happened right in the middle 
of a
> > huge Forest Service complex. Yes, right in the middle. First
> > question: why would Michael Ruppert, who distrusted the 
government in
> > every way, and rightly so,
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 12:32 PM
> > Mr. Carreon:
> > Pete Seda fled the U.S, knowing Iran will not extradict him to 
answer
> > legitimate questions and face criminal charges. Flight to avoid
> > prosecution is evidence of guilt. Let him return to face his
> > accusers — he will have the presumption of innocence under the
> rule
> > of law — or hide under a hostile government's protection and
> suffer
> > the consequences. He made his choice. (Sounds like Ruppert and 
Seda
> > have similar mental problems, and have found similar ways to deal
> > with them.)
> > Rich Kline - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 1:02 PM
> > Mike Ruppert is the most despicable human being I have ever had 
the
> > misfortune to know and work for. To those who casually dismiss the
> > short-comings of his personality (to put it lightly) I would 
invite
> > them to spend just one month in his pressence. If his subscribers
> > only knew the duplicity and the cosmocentrism that he exhibits 
they
> > wouldn't believe a word he says or writes. He's a pig and I think
> > it's very likely that he's the one who smashed up his office.
> > ex-employee (praise god!) - Nowhere, USA - August 26th, 6:42 PM
> > It's sad that so many people give money to that guy. I first met 
Mike
> > Ruppert in a bar in Ashland. "A bar?" one might ask. "I thought he
> > was an alcoholic." Right, he is, and a really ugly one, too. It's 
the
> > opinion of more than a few people out here that Mike Ruppert 
moved to
> > Oregon because he was under the impression that he would be 
recieved
> > as a king. When that didn't happen (and as his business started to
> > fail) he smashed his computers and fled the country. Good 
riddance.
> > ursula - ashland, or - August 26th, 6:59 PM
> > First question: why would Michael Ruppert, who distrusted the
> > government in every way, and rightly so, position himself right in
> > the middle of a huge Forest Service complex? The Forest Service is
> > the government! Their agents can be easily infiltrated by other
> > agents to make bad things happen. And there's almost the feeling 
that
> > he was there among friends. We went and checked it out, 
yesterday. I
> > would never have put my office there in a million years! And 
there he
> > is, dancing around in his underwear in front of his employee right
> > there in the middle of the U.S. Forest Service complex. 
Apparently,
> > he wanted her to show her hand. Is that hand as in "hand" job?
> >
> >
> >
> > The guy is off his fu
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 8:47 PM
> > Coming from long-time intelligence family, he's a candidate for an
> > infiltrator. He apparently has had big influences on goverrnment. 
He
> > basically got CIA director Deutsch fired. That would definitely 
cause
> > payback. But maybe it was staged as part of creating the beat-
upon,
> > abused Michael Ruppert image. How can he be an infiltrator if 
people
> > don't think the government are after him, if he isn't truly
> > expressing his own views, if he doesn't have connections and 
effects?
> > But Peak Oil works perfectly for Dick Cheney. And the Illuminati 
are
> > always willing to reveal some important information, like live-fly
> > exercises on 9-11, in order to get a bigger result of making 
Michael
> > Ruppert look like
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 8:48 PM
> > This forum is just free speech inhibitive. It only pretends to let
> > you make comments. Where is the justification for the delay? That
> > they have to be censored first? That is SO FREE!
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 26th, 10:35 PM
> > Yes, it does have to be checked. If everyone would read the
> > disclaimer and follow the simple rules of decent behavior it 
would be
> > different. And then there are the automated tooks filling these 
forms
> > with tons of crap that must be removed. We are sorry it does take
> > time to keep these up and activated as I am doing it now on my 
Sunday
> > morning.
> > Webmaster - Ashland, OR - August 27th, 9:52 AM
> > Michael Ruppert had a huge responsibilitly to the 9-11 truth 
movement
> > to act appropriately in all ways. They invited him to their 
forums.
> > They sat next to him. They cited his works. And now he is making
> > himself look shamed and fearful. He either is who he says he is, 
in
> > which case he never smashed his own computers, or he isn't who he
> > says he is, and we're talking about something completely different
> > than the lone nutter theory. I've never trusted Michael with his
> > LIHOP theory (let it happen on purpose). And I hated his peak oil
> > thing. That is so Cheney. And why is he on a campaign against
> > renewable energy resources?
> >
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 27th, 11:05 AM
> > Yes, it does have to be checked.
> > *************************************************
> > Actually, the paper has an absolute exemption from libel and other
> > forms of "publisher liabiity" under 47 USC Sec. 230(c)(1), under
> > Zeran v. AOL, 129 F.3d at 331, so there is no need to censor
> > anything. (Although Zeran says you can, you don't need to.) No 
charge
> > for the advice.
> >
> >
> >
> > Charles Carreon - Ashland, Oregon - August 27th, 12:04 PM
> > Webmaster: Regarding your need to edit posts: Under 47 USC Sec 230
(c)
> > (1) and the interpretation in Zeran, 129 F.3d at 331, the Tidings 
has
> > an absolute exemption from libel and other forms of "publisher
> > liability," so it is free to allow people's posts to appear just 
as
> > they are made, without editing. No charge for the advice, Mr.
> > Bolsinger :)
> > Charles Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 27th, 12:07 PM
> > I have worked with Mike Ruppert since 1999. There is no one who
> > better understands how difficult he can be to work with then me.
> > Having also been a target of harassment, I also understand how
> > targeting can cause the best person to behave unprofessionally.
> >
> > I work with Mike because he provides critical coverage of events 
that
> > saves readers lives and assets.
> >
> > I write for From the Wilderness and am proud of it,
> >
> > Catherine Austin Fitts
> > Catherine Austin Fits - Hickory Valley, TN - August 27th, 3:17 PM
> > I interviewed Mike about two weeks before the breakin. He was not 
in
> > a mood to wreck his own setup. He was proud of his achievements,
> > ready to buy a house in Ashland, enjoying karaoke nights, and open
> > about being, as he put it, "a lonely guy." To say he destroyed his
> > owned machines is as preposterous as the FBI's claim that Judy 
Barry
> > blew herself up. Shame on the Tidings for spreading the pure
> > speculation of what they'd call a "disgruntled employee" were the
> > subject other than Mike Ruppert.
> > Charles Carreon - Ashland, Oregon - August 27th, 8:16 PM
> > I want to know the history of the rental at the forest service
> > complex. Michael, let's hear it. It makes no sense that this space
> > would be available to outsiders, because that blows their entire
> > security setup in the back. How did you get this space?
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 1:26 AM
> > All of the work Michael did on 9-11 is now discredited. It's as 
if it
> > had a giant "X" on it saying, "DON'T GO THERE! MICHAEL RUPPERT IS 
A
> > BOZO!" A quick out and in, the information being buried more
> > effectively than if it had never been revealed, which it 
eventually
> > would have. People don't just go insane like this. He obviously
> > planned it.
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 5:29 AM
> > I still like Mike and I respect his work; despite any short-
comings
> > he may have as a person. I now believe that 911 was an inside job,
> > and Ruppert's work, amongst others, helped convince me.
> >
> > I also know that when you begin to look behind the facade of what
> > really goes on...the JFK assassination, the MLK assassination, 
U.S.
> > foreign policy, and 911 it can make one very depressed and 
somewhat
> > paranoid.
> >
> > Mike, wherever you are, you need to get to a meeting.
> >
> > Greg B in Chico.
> > Greg B - Chico, Ca - August 28th, 8:08 AM
> > The only thing I have to say is that sometimes people who are a
> > little "out there" still may have remarkable insights.
> >
> > I am not saying Ruppert is necessarily bipolar, I am cautioning
> > against the deduction that if he is a bit sick, he cannot possibly
> > have been the source of important and accurate information.
> >
> > That is just too simplistic.
> > Tony - Dallas,TX - August 28th, 8:17 AM
> > When doing a Webb-job, please try to refrain from the old 
Stalinist
> > way to "explain" anyone who doesn't hail government propaganda as 
the
> > absolute truth as mentally ill. It's just so, well, transparent.
> > People who know better are getting to see this stuff too you know.
> > Albert Bakker - Veendam, GR - August 28th, 8:29 AM
> > Looks like a Dick Cheney set-up. I wondered how they would try to
> > destroy Ruppert after his book "Crossing the Rubicon" detailed the
> > oil sector's blood profits, and their part in all these illegal 
wars.
> > As for this employee? Most likely a plant, perhaps a Zionist 
fascist?
> > Thoughts - Fort Worth, TX - August 28th, 9:09 AM
> > "Let him return to face his accusers — he will have the
> presumption
> > of innocence under the rule of law"
> >
> > Rich Kline you are either delusional or blind. Can you say Gitmo 
bay?
> > Presumption of innocence...how long have those folks been rotting
> > away down there without charges or lawyers?
> >
> > Get a life Rich.
> > Lee Donovan - Ottawa, Canada - August 28th, 9:11 AM
> > If Mr. Ruppert is sick, and I'm skeptical, he is in the very best
> > place for help, since Venezuela and Cuba have a reciprocal deal -
> > cheap Venezuelan oil for Cuba in exchange for Cuban doctors for
> > Venezuela. Both Cuba & Venezuela offer healthcare far superior to
> > what we (at least, some of us) have in the US.
> >
> > Good luck, Mike. Lately, I have been seriously contemplating 
moving
> > to Venezuela, too. Maybe I'll see you around.
> >
> > P.S. Anyone using the term "leftists" is suspect.
> > Krish - Lafayette, IN - August 28th, 9:36 AM
> > Is there a secret, cult meaning to "FTW," as in "F_ck the World"?
> > Wikipedia wrote:
> > FTW can refer to: "F_ck The World", a tattoo seen on bikers, 
prison
> > inmates, and punks. In common use since the early 1970s." Do you 
take
> > us as suckers? Is that "Save the Wilderness," as in Iggy's 
song: "God
> > and his captains, they wanna pull the f_cking plug, they wanna 
pull
> > the f_cking plug, and give the skies back to the birds and bugs"? 
Why
> > does FTW use the CIA logo?
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 9:38 AM
> > Mike Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon" put several hundred 
nails
> > in the coffin of the hideous scum who did 9/11 -- Cheney and the
> > NeoConMen (with possibly some help from the Mossad). There is no
> > doubt whatsoever that he was monitored, harrassed, and "black-
op"ed
> > by confederates of the the above mentioned slime balls.
> >
> > His personality, positive or negative, is an irrelevant point. The
> > book exposes the mass murdering scum who pulled the towers and
> > launched the fascist takeover of America.
> > Patriot - Washington, DC - August 28th, 10:10 AM
> > I for one support Mr. Ruppert.
> > This thing has CIA written all over it. This smear campaign 
itself,
> > instigated at this time and without Mr. Ruppert present anymore to
> > defend himself, is their standard procedure used to discredit.
> > Also, please note that most people who are informed and have an
> > understanding will prefer to post anonymously, or not post at all,
> > for obvious reasons. This will therefore tend to support the anti-
> > Ruppert perception that most people are in agreement with the 
smear.
> > This is not true either.
> > Anonymous - Somewhere, Texas - August 28th, 10:40 AM
> > Michael Ruppert's article entitled "By the Light of a Burning
> > Bridge," is an Illuminati pun for the Sun. "Pun for the sun" -- 
that
> > rhymes! In it he says "My permanent exodus from the U.S. was 
actually
> > ordained thirty years ago -- to the month." "Ordained" is a 
religious
> > term meaning "to invest with priestly authority, confer holy 
orders,
> > authorize as a rabbi, by fate ordained." All Illuminati concepts.
> > Sounds like KULT to me.
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 10:49 AM
> > Of course Michael Ruppert is kinda neurotic and paranoid. Anyone 
who
> > has a clue what's going on in the world feels like that 
sometimes. I
> > can only imagine the stress on someone who spends their life
> > investigating and reporting on the evil of their own government. 
That
> > doesn't totally excuse his character flaws, but conversely, his
> > character flaws don't invalidate the exhaustive research he's done
> > into 9/11, CIA drug-smuggling, and other areas.
> > Jeremy - Oakland, CA - August 28th, 11:41 AM
> > Mike Ruppert is a master of the 'limited hangout' where just 
enough
> > information is leaked in order to sway the reader into a belief of
> > plausibility for the storyline. While I respect his analysis of 
the
> > political machinations that led to the middle east imperial 
project
> > we're on today, I find his views on 'Peak Oil' to be highly 
suspect.
> > They read just like the Club of Rome, which is made of the same
> > elitists Ruppert supposedly hates. You don't fight a system only 
to
> > promote its worldviews.
> > A. Magnus - Tampa Bay - August 28th, 11:55 AM
> > A few points:
> > 1)Michael Ruppert is an ingratiating individual and a bit off to 
be
> > sure. Still, do not exclude all that has been put out from the web
> > site. There is still much in the message, though not as much as he
> > would have you think.
> > 2) The rents sure are high in lilly-white liberal Ashland. What's 
up
> > wid dat? Your CoOp has gone down the gentrified toilet too, though
> > the tiles shine nowadays.
> >
> > Now wake up fools and focus on your fascistic gov't instead of
> > one "lonely guy" who hit the road.
> >
> >
> > Michael - Ithaca, NY - August 28th, 12:12 PM
> > Ruppert is a disinformation artist who's usefulness has been used 
up.
> > When he started saying that the 9/11 truth movement should just
> > accept what happened and move on, it became quite clear what his 
true
> > motivations really were. Disinformation and derailment. Just 
because
> > he has written some books critical of the Bush's doesn't mean he 
is
> > on OUR side of things. They send out guys like this to confuse
> > everyone allowing them to get away with even more terrible 
things. It
> > is a very old tactic.
> > Getagrip - Canada - August 28th, 12:25 PM
> > If A. Magnus was closer, I'd ask him out for a drink. Talk about
> > fighting a system only to promote its worldviews: one of the 
headings
> > in Michael's "Burning Sun Bridge" article is "The End of History."
> > The End of History is part of Leo Straus's Nihilist revolution, an
> > apology for terror, nicely detailed by Webster Tarpley in "9/11
> > Synthetic Terrorism Made in USA." The end of war is the end of
> > history.
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 12:25 PM
> > Blaming the victim: very sleazy journalism.
> >
> > Ruppert's detractors can only dream of being as aware, 
intelligent,
> > and informed as Mike. They'll never get there watching Fox News, 
or
> > reading the Ashland Daily Tidings.
> > Chesapeak Oil - Happy Camp, CA - August 28th, 1:06 PM
> > Tara Carreon, you make me laugh out loud. Thanks for the
> > entertainment.
> > Uber Dude - Portland, OR - August 28th, 1:15 PM
> > I just interviewed a lady at "Pathway Enterprises," CEO Jim 
Ormand.
> > They moved into the forest service building across from FTW AFTER 
the
> > terrorist attack. That's what it was, not a burglary. Three guys 
with
> > sledgehammers smashing computers is terrorism. She knew nothing 
about
> > Mike Ruppert. The whole building was forest service until they
> > brought in FTW. Ranger stations don't take in tenants. There is no
> > building directory outside. Pathway is a cover for the forest 
service
> > rental story.
> > Tara Carreon (ambu@) - Ashland, OR - August 28th,
> > 1:31 PM
> > Ruppert's slamming by a corporate-owned newspaper is expected. 
Local
> > commentary doing the same in an upper-income demographic is 
equally
> > typical. For the article to suggest he pounded his own hard drives
> > because he may have exhibited bipolar behavior is deplorable. 
Denying
> > the current administration's brown-shirt tactics is blindness. 
Vocal
> > support of fascism to protect a stock portfolio seems a mite
> > shortsighted.
> > Chewbacca - Dantui - August 28th, 1:37 PM
> > I have an important correction to point out: that Venezuela is a
> > democracy and that it is not socialist. To conclude, the author of
> > this article is obviously brainwashed, has not done his background
> > work, and knows very little about widely-recognized forms of
> > government. In sum, the author is lacking in education.
> > Tom Lowe - Borrego Springs - August 28th, 2:02 PM
> > I hope Mike finds some peace in Venezuela. I used to visit the US
> > every year to go to Disneyland. Now that The US has suspended 
habeus
> > corpus, the right to unreasonable search an seizure and most other
> > rights and is shipping tourists to the middle east to be tortured 
I
> > will no longer set foot on American soil. The US is just another 
3rd
> > world country now. I was wondering how long Mike would stay in 
that
> > cesspool. Good luck Mike. I will look you up if I am in your area
> >
> > Chuck Beyer
> > Chuck Beyer - Port Alberni BC Canada - August 28th, 2:11 PM
> > I just called three ranger stations in the area. Adele, at the 
Butte
> > Falls two ranger stations, when asked if they rented spaces
> > replied "Oh, no!" Jim Good at the Prospect ranger station said no,
> > and also that none of the forest service buildings he knows of 
have
> > surveillance. A lady at Applegate ranger station said no, they 
don't
> > rent spaces either.
> > Tara Carreon (ambu@) - Ashland, OR - August 28th,
> > 2:14 PM
> > Pictures of the forest service complex and Michael's office can be
> > seen here: http://www.american-
> > buddha.com/911.abyliteburningbridgeruppert.htm . There are S.O.S.
> > Alarm stickers all over now. I have a call into Ray to find out
> > whether Mike had service then, if they got a call, if they 
reported
> > it, what their response was.
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 3:09 PM
> > There are a lot of skeptics posting unfavourable comments about 
Mike
> > Ruppert, many of whom I suspect have not read his articles or
> > subscribed to his site. Tara Carreon I sense deep anger in you.
> >
> > The fact of the matter omitting anything about his character is 
that
> > FTW has been accurate and written presciently about the unfolding 
of
> > current global events related to Peak Oil. Ruppert has been well
> > ahead of the game. Love him or loathe him FTW's analysis is very
> > accurate.
> > Deano (Dean@) - United Kingdom - August 28th, 3:11 PM
> > Deano rhymes with Beano. "I sense deep anger in you." Oh, now I'm 
the
> > psycho! FTW's analysis is NOT very accurate. When was it we were
> > supposed to have imminent war with Columbia? There is no evidence 
for
> > peak oil. It's the same old Malthusian bull -- limits to growth --
> > we've been hearing for ever from these neocons. Anything Michael 
has
> > said, Webster Tarpley has said better. Michael doesn't talk
> > about "physical evidence," because it can be refuted; whereas,
> > conjecture is irrefutable!
> > Tara Carreon - Ashland, OR - August 28th, 4:00 PM
> > Yes, yes... I love the duplicity in these comments...
> >
> > This article is a smear? Did anyone read Ruppert's that triggered
> > this one?
> >
> > It was employees/gov't officials/meth dealers that broke into the
> > office. Did anyone notice he took the insurance money and ran? 
(Uh,
> > hello!)
> >
> > How DARE Robert Plain exercise his free speech!? It's blasphemy!
> > (Ruppert is OK though...)
> >
> > OF COURSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE POSTING unfavorable comments.
> > There are many that aren't subscribing to Mike's story.
> > Robby (solarrob@) - Sonoma, Ca - August 28th, 5:44 PM
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