Hi, On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 10:51, Sascha Brawer wrote: > Here's a draft for an extended abstract, see below. Any comments
In general be careful of your use of the word java. We don't want to give the impression that we implement java, which is a trademarked word used to describe particular (proprietary) implementations. That is why we call the project GNU Classpath, essential libraries for the java language or something similar descriptive. See also http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_5.html You should also mention that some dedicated people have been working on GNU Classpath for the last five years. That explains why we are as far as we are now. Consistently doing little steps for a couple of years does work to make progress. > Would anyone be interested in doing the talk together? I can certainly act as the lovely assistant who does the demos :) > IMHO, it would be great if there also were > separate talks about the VMs. I would like to see talks about: - Kaffe, the NetBSD of VMs (we show you what portability means) - GCJ, doing it the traditional way (or how to generate the fasted code on earth) - JRVM, implementing the difficult stuff in an easy language. - IKVM.NET, cooperation and integration in the extreme. > Also, would anyone be interested in a BoF session about Java graphics? > What other talks/BoFs do people have in mind? I really want to spend some time the next couple of months on Mauve or just tests in general and on making the VM interface even more abstract. Both topics would be nice to evaluate with some people. And from the meeting in Karlsruhe I got the impression that people would be interested in some common (native) library format to reuse the output of a ahead of time or just in time compiler. (BTW found the paper that I mentioned: http://flint.cs.yale.edu/flint/publications/bincomp.html) > GNU Classpath -- Freedom for Java [FIXME: Is the title too snappy?] "Freedom to Innovate" :) Seriously. I think GNU Classpath is the boring project. It is what it enables people do with it that makes it so exciting! Having people create big complex free programs on top of it like Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/) or XWT (http://www.xwt.org/) is nice. And writing application in an easy language for the GNOME framework is really productive. And we are also the catalyst for all these cool VM/Compiler projects mentioned above. Giving people the freedom to do these kinds of innovative things without them being controlled/sanctioned by someone is why I think GNU Classpath is meaningful. Cheers, Mark _______________________________________________ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath