Any update on how to do this from LightTable? On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Chris Granger <ibdk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FWIW, I'm working on this with Light Table, which removes a lot of the > difficulties here - it will be include this script tag and you're ready to > go. There's no reason that we need to jump through a bunch of hoops here. > My plan is that the next release (sometime after strange loop) will include > a nice way to work with CLJS such that a very nice getting started video > could be created. :) > > Cheers, > Chris. > > On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:10:29 AM UTC-7, Chas Emerick wrote: >> >> On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:00 AM, Laurent PETIT wrote: >> >> 2012/9/10 Chas Emerick <ch...@cemerick.com> >> >> I've been using a combination of lein-cljsbuild to keep the on-disk >>> generated code fresh and piggieback[1] for all of my cljs REPL needs. >>> >> >> Hello Chas, >> >> I've tried to use piggieback. My current stack for playing with the >> concepts is leiningen2 on the command line (to start the server), with >> clsjbuild to compile the browser_repl.cljs to "bootstrap" the REPL >> machinery (lein cljsbuild once), regular "lein repl" once project.clj has >> been configured with the proper options) and a regular CCW 0.10.0 nrepl >> client. >> >> It works OK with the "out of the box" Rhino-backed evaluator, but as you >> might guess, I have no interest in this and then I quickly jump to try & >> get a Browser-based REPL running. >> >> That's where things broke. >> I did not manage to get things compiled correctly. >> >> As it stands, it seems that I'll have to read & understand wiki pages >> from ClojureScript project, nrepl documentation, piggieback documentation, >> cljsbuild documentation, to really grasp the whole thing. >> Seems a little bit daunting just to be able to "play" with it. Is there >> an easier way ? A resource somewhere which already explains step-by-step >> how to get started with a new project, cljsbuild for compiling from time to >> time, and piggieback ? >> >> Just asking before starting digging :-) >> >> >> There is a how-to in piggieback's README for using a browser-repl >> environment rather than Rhino. Nelson Morris was actually the first one to >> get that working, and I'm using it regularly, so it *does* work, though >> there's no doubt there's a lot of pieces you need to put together (for my >> part, I blew nearly an hour tearing my hair out before re-reading the >> browser-repl tutorial,[1] and seeing near the bottom that loading the HTML >> page from disk wouldn't work; once I served the page from localhost, >> everything fell together). >> >> FWIW, I've found ClojureScript itself to be very solid so far; there are >> some unfortunate (IMO unnecessary) incompatibilities between it and >> Clojure, but [2] is the only thing I've really tripped up on from a >> technical standpoint. >> >> I think your assessment that the learning curve is "daunting" is just >> about right, but that largely lays with the state of tooling, and the >> disjointed nature of the development process. With Clojure, you always >> have a single environment (the JVM or CLR), into which you can load code >> all day from nearly anywhere without having to think much about the >> logistics of it. ClojureScript necessarily implies a more complicated >> setup: there's your REPL environment, probably a browser, and maybe a >> connection between the two; you *must* have your code on disk and in the >> right place in order for Google Closure / lein-cljsbuild to get at it (not >> strictly true, but driving the compiler from a Clojure REPL isn't any >> easier outside of simple cases); your Ring webapp needs to be configured to >> be serving the gclosure output; and, you'd obviously like to be able to >> control and monitor all of this from your editor/environment of choice. >> >> (I'd like to eventually do a 'Starting ClojureScript' screencast similar >> to [3], but the logistics of "going from zero to hero" with ClojureScript >> are IMO far too hard and nuanced still in order to present them well in >> that sort of medium.) >> >> I think the contrast is so stark in part because of how good we've had it >> on the Clojure side. I suspect that CoffeeScript programming must be >> similarly disjointed, since all the same moving pieces are necessary (and >> perhaps without the benefit of upsides like a browser-connected REPL and so >> on). Welcome to the wonderful world of modern web development! :-P >> >> I think that's all a long way of saying: start digging! >> >> Cheers, >> >> - Chas >> >> [1] https://github.com/clojure/clojurescript/wiki/The-REPL- >> and-Evaluation-Environments >> [2] http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJS-358 >> [3] http://cemerick.com/2012/05/02/starting-clojure/ >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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