On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:59:39AM -0500, David Nalley wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Chip Childers >> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I started a conversation within cloudstack-private@i.a.o about the >> > prospect of graduation from the incubator, and have received positive >> > reactions from everyone that replied. >> > >> > I wanted to kick off the discussion here on the public list, to see if >> > anyone has any concerns or objections to us starting down the path of >> > trying to graduate? >> > >> > My general impression is that we have come a long way as a community >> > since CloudStack entered the incubator. While there are still rough edges >> > for us to work through over time, we are dealing with our problems quite >> > well as a community. The simple reason that I believe we are in a >> > position to ask to graduate, is that we are no longer getting value from >> > the incubation process! That's a good thing, because it means that we >> > have managed to learn quite a bit about the ASF processes, rules, >> > methods and preferences. >> > >> > Thoughts, comments, discussion? >> > >> > >> > If the community is in general agreement, we have some work to get done: >> > >> > We need to go through the podling status file, and ensure that we have >> > completed everything that needs to be completed: >> > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cloudstack.html >> > >> > The CloudStack trademark is currently owned by Citrix. We need to have >> > that transfered to ASF prior to graduation. David also suggested in the >> > private list that we probably need to execute the formal ASF name >> > search, for the purpose of providing the ASF with assurances that there >> > are no surprise conflicts. >> > >> > Once we get the final pre-graduation requirements completed, we need to >> > go through the process of attempting to graduate. I suggest that folks >> > take a minute to read through the Incubator's Guide to Successful >> > Graduation page [1]. >> > >> > The first step of the process seems to be to kick off a formal community >> > vote to propose graduation to the IPMC. If we vote to graduate, then we >> > have to draft a charter / graduation resolution. This is will be >> > proposed to the IPMC for their review, and if passed in an IPMC vote we >> > forward it to the ASF board for their vote during a monthly board >> > meeting. >> > >> >> So I'd propose that instead of two votes for charter/resolution and >> whether or not to vote, that we determine the overall community >> feeling/consensus in this thread, and then vote to graduate with a >> specific resolution as a single vote. >> >> --David >> > > Many other podlings seem to have done it that way, and I'm in agreement > to that approach. > > -chip
So after mulling this over a cup of coffee - I still like the idea, but have seen the IPMC suggest changes to resolutions when they come to that list. I don't want folks to think the resolution voted on is immutable without a revote. Perhaps we draft the resolution on a consensus basis. --David
