On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 09:16:36AM -0500, Sebastien Goasguen wrote: >> >> On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 02:38:27PM -0800, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote: >>>> John, I agree we need to merge in logical chunks sooner rather than later >>>> that allows for reviews and feedback sooner. >>>> >>>> Chip I can take the first stab at putting this in a wiki but would require >>>> collaboration with you and Alex to get it crisp and clear >>> >>> That would be quite nice of you Animesh! >> >> I just read it all and there does not seem to be a real conclusion >> especially from David's concerns. >> >> How do we move forward and ensure that the entire community and committers >> understand how code is developed in the ASF ? >> Is this thread a mandatory reading for instance ? >> >> -Sebastien > > Part of the challenge is that this is a moving target... who exactly is > "in the community" at any point in time is different as time moves on. > So we're left with thinking about it in terms of (1) current community > members being educated, (2) ongoing education and processes, and (3) > documenting it for the purpose of reference as the community grows / evolves. > > The reason that we decided to push this thread over from private to dev, > was specifically to support (1) and (3). For (1), we now have a public > reference of the discussion, as well as the effects of it having been quite > visible (see all the IP clearance threads / work). For (2), this is the > responsibility of the community itself (and specifically a > responsibility of the (P)PMC to keep an eye on things). We do need to > continue to work on our processes though... As for (3), this thread > plus a wiki page discussing how and why (which Animesh said he'd work > on) seem to be the best option. > > Other than the points above, do you have any other thoughts about how to > move forward? Think I'm missing anything? I think it's fine, I just don't know how for (3) we will "enforce" people reading the wiki or the thread. > > -chip