2011/7/29 Alexander Neundorf <a.neundorf-w...@gmx.net> > On Friday 29 July 2011, David Cole wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Replies requested. Short replies only. Read on. Just a short reply with > bug > > numbers or links to the bugs is all we need here. Please move specific > > discussions into the bugs themselves or start a new thread to talk about > > it... Replies on this thread should just be a collector for bug numbers. > > > > Example one-line reply: > > > > http://public.kitware.com/Bug/view.php?id=8707 > > > > We are planning for CMake 2.8.6 already, and it's going to be a > compressed > > release cycle this time around. We're targeting Sept. 14, 2011 for > > releasing it, and in order to make that happen we'll have to do an "rc1" > > as early as Aug 10th or 17th... just 2 or 3 weeks from now. > > From the KDE point of view this is somewhat unfortunate, that exactly this > cycle will be shorter. > Are there reasons for it ? >
There are reasons for it. For one thing, the 2.8.5 release took too long, so we want to make this one shorter to keep us on schedule for getting 4 releases per year out there. If we can actually deliver 2.8.6 on Sept. 14th, we can reliably plan on 2.8.7 being delivered in mid-December. It may be unfortunate, but we will stick with it unless we receive mucho objections from others in addition to KDE. Is mid-December too far in the future? (And a minimum version of 2.8.7...?) > With the coming Qt5 and the binary break this causes in KDE we plan to also > break binary compatibility once (while keeping source compatibility similar > to > Qt more or less completely). > When is the Qt5 release scheduled for? > > With this break we will also use the chance to break our cmake source > compatiblity once, the first time since KDE 4.0.0 in early 2007. > Which means we try to merge a lot of our stuff into cmake, and then depend > on > this version of cmake, i.e. 2.8.6. > 2.8.7 will be released maybe around January or so, right ? This would be > quite > late for us. > This does not just mean merge, but also change it so it becomes acceptable > for > cmake, etc. > > This is the list of files in KDE which are potential candidates for being > upstreamed: > > http://community.kde.org/index.php?title=KDE_Core/Platform_11/Buildsystem/FindFilesSurvey > > Not all files listed on this page have realistic chances IMO. > But I'd really like to get rid of the copies in KDE of the files in the > sections "2 Check*.cmake files", "3 Generic Macros" and "5.1.1 Find*.cmake > from kdelibs which exist in cmake". > > If you look there, already in these three sections there are still a lot of > files marked as TODO. > Getting all that done until August 10th is hard, to say the least. Also now > is > the time for summer vacations, which makes it even more hard. > > So, from our (KDE) side being able to work on the stuff listed on the page > linked above until like end of September would be ideal. > (additionally there are the things like automoc which I already started > discussing on the cmake developers list). > > Alex > > That is an ambitious amount of work. I'm skeptical that we could even fit all that into a mid-September rc1, let alone a mid-August rc1... It would probably be better if you shoot for getting that in by November, and counting on a December release of CMake 2.8.7. Let me know if you have further thoughts or comments here. Thanks, David
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