On 25 Jan 2009, at 21:30, Ben Trumbull wrote:

The results for a default fetch on a data set of 1500 very simple
objects are:

XML - usesLazyFetching = NO  38.00 sec load
XML - usesLazyFetching = YES  4.78 sec load

SQLite - usesLazyFetching = NO  35.25 sec load
SQLite - usesLazyFetching = YES  2.07 sec load


These numbers are astronomically wrong. On a modern intel machine, those numbers are off by between three and four orders of magnitude. A 500Mhz ppc G4 with 256MB RAM can fetch 10,000 rows over 20x faster than that.

Thanks for posting a reply, It put me on the right track.

I think the numbers show that it is trivial to get your Core Data configuration astronomically wrong, especially if you are using bindings.


Timings are Cro-magnon.

Why ? Put Shark in Time Sample (All Threads State). You'll get close to wall clock time with a sampling accuracy of microseconds.

36000 years later...

Instruments reports:

1500 item data set fetch time .028s. So it's not the fetching that takes time! My simple timings included a LOT of KVO notifications, not just the raw fetch.


Or just use the user default -com.apple.CoreData.SQLDebug 1 and we'll log all the SQL, plus annotations for timings of fetching. It even comes in color -com.apple.CoreData.SyntaxColoredLogging 1
Everyone needs to have this on.


What does Instruments say ? Select the Core Data template in the new document window. That will configure all the most interesting Core Data instruments together.

Typically, with the SQLite store the most common error is failing to use prefetching when appropriate and faulting in lots of relationships.
My model is very simple with only a single to-many relationship.
With usesLazyFetching = NO things go haywire.
I get 1500 faults each of which throws up a storm of KVO calls.

The docs do state (Core Data Guide - Faults and KVO Notifications) that KVO notifications do occur as faults are realised, even if the faulted relationship is already in the moc (is this last assumption correct?)

I have a few bindings attached to the array controller which probably accounts for the storm. usesLazyFetching = YES seems to batch up the faulting so that the notification storm doesn't get too out of hand.

However the best solution, in this simple case, is just to use [request setReturnsObjectsAsFaults:NO].


The XML store takes a long time to parse and add to the coordinator, but doesn't have that problem because it caches everything in memory. So the fact you've managed to make the two perform about the same implies something else is going on.

I am using NSPersistentDocument + GC therefore it would seem that I have to revert to XML as per http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive/message/cocoa/2008/2/28/200078

What are you doing in -awakeFromFetch for example ? What kind of machine were these numbers taken on, and did you do so after a fresh restart with no other apps running ?
-awakeFromFetch extracts strings reps of an RTFD data binary and NSDate - so it does contribute to the load time.


Do you get the same performance without putting the objects in the array controller ? Just set up the stack and do the fetch and toss the results. Misconfigured array controllers can sometimes generate notification storms if you add observers that make changes while receiving notifications from the controller that something is changing.


The com.apple.CoreData.SQLDebug user default above is handy for that as what should be one or two fetches with a half page of log will instead by a fire-hose of logging that makes you want to quit Terminal.

- Ben


Jonathan Mitchell

Central Conscious Unit
http://www.mugginsoft.com




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