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From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
Ya'aqov Ziso
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:29 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies
Jonathan, thank you, in full accord. Yes, the crux of the matter is Names
(NAF being the more expensive library subscription
and the one not available for free like http://id.loc.gov
At http://orlabs.oclc.org/Identities/ I searched Œclapton, eric¹ and wonder:
* are all WorldCat+NAF 49 retrieved headings there helpful? do we need in
the list Œclayton, cecile¹ (etc.)
* Names that haven¹t made it into an authority record are definitely
helpful, but can we suggest a way to sort and rank them more usefully (for
the user) on the page?
Your thoughts?
Ya¹aqov
On 3/19/10 2:35 PM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <rochk...@jhu.edu> wrote:
> I don't think the inclusion of non-NAF headings in Identities is
a flaw, it's
> a benefit to the purpose of Identities not to be held back by the somewhat
> glacial pace of change in NAF. But you're right, the right tool
for the job,
> I don't know that any of the existing OCLC "free" (or included
with other OCLC
> membership/services) services are the right tool to replace any existing
> purchased authorities tools or sources. It depends on what you're
using them
> for, of course. I agree that the brochure statement was potentially
> misleading, but these (Identities, Terminologies, Research
Terminologies) are
> still very interesting and useful services.
> ________________________________________
> From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
Ya'aqov Ziso
> [z...@rowan.edu]
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:14 PM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat Terminologies
>
> Karen,
> Seems like pulling-teeth was worth it. Thank you for these updates and for
> making them available for all interested.
> Essentially, given your 6 months latency compared to
http://id.loc.gov) and
> the inclusion of NAF and non-NAF headings in Identities,
> both Terminologies and Identities are not yet at a level of databases that
> libraries can go for, forgoing what they currently need to buy, load, and
> maintain locally.
> Your withdrawal of the brochure statement is justified and
apology accepted.
> Ya¹aqov
>
>
>
>
> On 3/19/10 1:35 PM, "Karen Coombs" <coom...@oclc.org> wrote:
>
>> > Ya¹aqov,
>> >
>> > Identities is not based on a name authority file it is based
on name data
>> in
>> > WorldCat. These two are not the same thing. Names within
Identities come
>> from
>> > several different fields within the WorldCat MARC records
including 1xx,
>> 6xx,
>> > and 7xx fields. This is why Identities contains names which
have not made
>> > their way into a name authority file
>> > (http://www.worldcat.org/identities/np-levan,%20ralph%20r).
Also Identities
>> > doesn¹t contain authority records, it contains Identity
records. Identity
>> > records contain different information from Authority records.
>> >
>> > There are name authority projects going on within OCLC Research. The
most
>> > active is VIAF http://www.viaf.org/ . This service contains
name authority
>> > information from several national libraries, not just Library
of Congress
>> and
>> > right now not all of NACO has been loaded, only differentiate personal
>> names.
>> > More information on the VIAF project is available at
>> > http://www.oclc.org/research/activities/viaf/
>> >
>> > Regarding up to dateness of Terminologies as I said in my previous
message
a
>> > schedule for updates was posted to the Developer Network
listserv and the
>> > Developer Network wiki
>> > (http://worldcat.org/devnet/wiki/Terminologies_Updates).
Andrew Houghton
>>
has
>> > also informed you that information about how recently a given
terminology
>> is
>> > located on the Experimental Terminologies page (
>> > http://tspilot.oclc.org/resources/index.html).
>> >
>> > Karen