From: "Jonathan Rochkind" <rochk...@jhu.edu>

But you will leave sorting as part of CQL too in any changes to CQL specs, I hope? I think CQL has a lot of use even outside of SRU proper, so I encourage you to leave it's spec not too tightly coupled to SRU.

The OASIS TC firmly supports this approach (and by "firmly" I mean 100%) so the only way this could get changed is via public comment.



I think there are at least three ways to sort as part of (different versions of?) SRU now!
1) An actual separate "&sortKeys" query paramater
2) Included in the CQL expression in "&query", using the "sortBy" keyword.
3) In draft not finalized, OASIS/SRU 2.0 methods of specifying XPaths for sorting. [Thanks for including the link to the current SRU 2.0 draft, I didn't know that was publically available anywhere, it's not really googlable].

As you corrected yourself in a subsequent message:

Ah, I think I was wrong below. I must have been looking at different versions of the SRU spec without realizing it.

SRU 1.1 includes a "&sortKeys" parameter, and CQL 1.1 does not include a "sortBy" clause.

SRU 1.2 does NOT include a "&sortKeys" parameter, and CQL 1.2 does include a "sortBy" clause.

Yes, that's correct.


Do I have this right? As SRU 1.2 is the only actual spec I have to work with... am I right that either top-level "&sortKeys", or embedded in CQL with "sortBy" would both be legal in SRU 1.2
No. Legal in 2.0 - the OASIS version, not legal in 1.2. In 1.2 it is not legal to have a sort parameter in the request.

OASIS is standardizing SRU and CQL "loosely coupled" that is, SRU can use other query languages and CQL may be invoked by other protocols, but they are generally oriented towards being used together. But since SRU may be used with a query language that might not have sort capability, the TC felt it necessary to include sorting as part of the protocol. Conversely since CQL may be used by a protocol that doesn't support sorting, similarly CQL should support sorting. There is a section in the draft standard that discusses what to do if a request has conflicting sort specifications.

--Ray

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