On 11/28/12 10:58 AM, David Fiander wrote:
This just sounds like you don't care about counting the gender variant
members of the community.
I don't know why you conclude that. The technical reason for not
changing a survey mid-way through is quite solid -- it would invalidate
the results already in. So gender variance needs to be in a new survey
that has that in from the beginning. Anyone can set up a survey... hint,
hint.
kc
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm going to leave it as is for now, let's think of this as a first draft.
As I think I said to the list (not sure because lots of people have
contacted me directly) I'd hate to change it now because that'd just make
the first half of the answers useless/inconsistent/different than the rest.
Next time around we can add in an other option. Sound good?
On Nov 27, 2012 4:22 PM, "Gabriel Farrell" <[email protected]> wrote:
Great first step, Rosalyn. Could we include an "other" for those in the
community that may not be covered by the gender binary?
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ross Singer <[email protected]>
wrote:
I'm pretty sure I said "if you're unsure" which means maybe you've
never
thought about it or not really clear as to what 'part of the community'
means.
I mean, I'm not trying to annex the unsuspecting or anything.
-Ross.
On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke <[email protected]>
wrote:
Um, no. Anyone who takes the survey has to have gotten the incoming
link
from somewhere. This listserv is the most likely source. So, by
your
definition almost anyone with the URL for the survey is a community
member.
Self-defining as part of the community is about how people see their
role.
Otherwise the survey could just list all those things you said and
ask
if
the person did them.
-Wilhelmina Randtke
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ross Singer <[email protected]>
wrote:
To second Rosy's point, if you are unsure if you are 'part of the
community' and you can answer yes to any of the following questions,
you
absolutely can say 'yes' in the survey:
You are on the CODE4LIB mailing list
You have attended a Code4Lib conference
You have submitted to a CfP to a Code4Lib conference
You tried to attend a Code4Lib conference but didn't register in
time
You have a registered account on code4lib.org
You have a registered account on wiki.code4lib.org
You have submitted to or read the Code4lib journal
You follow planet.code4lib.org
You have been in the #code4lib IRC channel
What I'm saying is that Code4Lib's "community" takes a lot of forms,
don't
feel you need to be a regular in the IRC channel or something.
-Ross.
On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[email protected]>
wrote:
To our dear dear lurking friends,
We would also like you to take the survey. I put the "Do you
consider
yourself a part of the Code4Lib community." question in the survey
because
I wanted to make sure that people that were part of Code4Lib were
separated from the random people that might take the survey -- like
oh
say
my mom (I'm not kidding, she would take the survey if she saw it).
But then I was reminded that I once thought I wasn't part of the
community.
I read the listserv all the time and then I decided to start a
blog.
And
then I went to a conference where I gave a lightning talk. And now
Michael
Klein is yelling at me to come back to the conference and IRC chat
room.
So now my hope for that question is that folks like you -- who
think
they
are just a lurker -- will take the survey and respond no to the
first
question. Then maybe we can figure out a way to turn some of those
nos
to
yeses.
:)
A former lurker
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Rosalyn Metz <
[email protected]
wrote:
Ok Folks,
I'm starting off small. Let's do a quick survey of the community
and
see
what the gender breakdown is.
Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68G5TBG
It should take 1 minute to fill out. It closes at the end of the
day
Friday (midnight). I'll share the results here on Monday when
we're
all
back to work and can have a lively discussion about what they
mean.
Expect
a chart (I like charts in addition to surveys).
Rosalyn
P.S. can someone share on the twitters?
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