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Romain GERARD edited comment on CASSANDRA-13418 at 6/28/17 5:24 PM:
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Hi back Marcus,

So I took into account your comments and regarding the 1rst one I wanted to do 
that at first but 
getFullyExpiredSSTables is also used in 
[CompactionTask|https://github.com/criteo-forks/cassandra/blob/trunk/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/db/compaction/CompactionTask.java#L165].
 So only modifying things at the TWS level would have resulted in compacting 
the sstables that we wanted to drop, and I was not too incline to touch to 
CompactionTask.

It is also making worthDroppingTombstones [ignoring 
overlaps|https://github.com/criteo-forks/cassandra/blob/trunk/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/db/compaction/TimeWindowCompactionStrategy.java#L141]
 and respect the tombstoneThresold specified (We can turn on 
uncheckedTombstoneCompaction for this one)
To sump up moving things closer to TWCS was not possible (to me) without 
impacting more external code. 

Regarding the 2nd question I put the code validating the option in 
[TimeWindowCompactionStategyOptions|https://github.com/criteo-forks/cassandra/blob/cassandra-3.11-criteo/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/db/compaction/TimeWindowCompactionStrategyOptions.java#L157]
in order to [trigger an 
exception|https://github.com/criteo-forks/cassandra/blob/cassandra-3.11-criteo/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/schema/CompactionParams.java#L161]
 if the options is used elsewhere than TWCS.







P.s: I will have more time in the upcoming days, so I will be more responsive.


was (Author: rgerard):
Hi back Marcus,

So I took into account your comments and regarding the 1rst one I wanted to do 
that at first but 
getFullyExpiredSSTables is also used in 
[CompactionTask|https://github.com/criteo-forks/cassandra/blob/trunk/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/db/compaction/CompactionTask.java#L165].
 So only modifying things at the TWS level would have resulted in compacting 
the sstables that we wanted to drop, and I was not too incline to touch to 
CompactionTask.

It is also making worthDroppingTombstones [ignoring 
overlaps|https://github.com/criteo-forks/cassandra/blob/trunk/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/db/compaction/TimeWindowCompactionStrategy.java#L141]
 and respect the tombstoneThresold specified (We can turn on 
uncheckedTombstoneCompaction for this one)
To sump up moving things closer to TWCS was not possible (to me) without 
impacting more external code. 

Regarding the 2nd question I put the code validating the options in 
[TimeWindowCompactionStategyOptions|https://github.com/criteo-forks/cassandra/blob/cassandra-3.11-criteo/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/db/compaction/TimeWindowCompactionStrategyOptions.java#L157]
in order to [trigger an 
exception|https://github.com/criteo-forks/cassandra/blob/cassandra-3.11-criteo/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/schema/CompactionParams.java#L161]
 if the options is used elsewhere than TWCS.







P.s: I will have more time in the upcoming days, so I will be more responsive.

> Allow TWCS to ignore overlaps when dropping fully expired sstables
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-13418
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13418
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Compaction
>            Reporter: Corentin Chary
>              Labels: twcs
>         Attachments: twcs-cleanup.png
>
>
> http://thelastpickle.com/blog/2016/12/08/TWCS-part1.html explains it well. If 
> you really want read-repairs you're going to have sstables blocking the 
> expiration of other fully expired SSTables because they overlap.
> You can set unchecked_tombstone_compaction = true or tombstone_threshold to a 
> very low value and that will purge the blockers of old data that should 
> already have expired, thus removing the overlaps and allowing the other 
> SSTables to expire.
> The thing is that this is rather CPU intensive and not optimal. If you have 
> time series, you might not care if all your data doesn't exactly expire at 
> the right time, or if data re-appears for some time, as long as it gets 
> deleted as soon as it can. And in this situation I believe it would be really 
> beneficial to allow users to simply ignore overlapping SSTables when looking 
> for fully expired ones.
> To the question: why would you need read-repairs ?
> - Full repairs basically take longer than the TTL of the data on my dataset, 
> so this isn't really effective.
> - Even with a 10% chances of doing a repair, we found out that this would be 
> enough to greatly reduce entropy of the most used data (and if you have 
> timeseries, you're likely to have a dashboard doing the same important 
> queries over and over again).
> - LOCAL_QUORUM is too expensive (need >3 replicas), QUORUM is too slow.
> I'll try to come up with a patch demonstrating how this would work, try it on 
> our system and report the effects.
> cc: [~adejanovski], [~rgerard] as I know you worked on similar issues already.



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