I feel your pain.  After spending time shuffling code up and down from a
contrib folder so that gump would, then would not compile those sources, I
finally moved the code over to sf.net and updated the docs to mention the
additional impls.

I would like a straight answer on this too.  I wish I could keep everything
together.


--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
EdgeTech, Inc.
678.910.8017
AIM: jmitchtx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Pugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: [configuration] handling exceptions in AbstractConfiguration
implementations


> This is really driving me crazy..  I have tracked threads on general and
> jakarta-pmc mailing lists about this..  And everytime it comes down to "I
am
> not a lawyer" and a bunch of FUD.  We really need someone from the top of
> Apache to provide direction.  I work a lot with hibernate code and can
think
> of at least 4 projects that have hibernate code in them (at least as far
as
> import statements).
>
> Of course, I guess this isn't the right mailing list..  I could try and
push
> this to some sort of conclusion, but I don't want to be told no!  right
now
> you can just pick your interpretation!
>
> Argh,
> Eric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:23 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [configuration] handling exceptions in
> > AbstractConfiguration implementations
> >
> >
> > One advantage for me is having the ability to reuse your existing
> > application's configuration.  I created a Hibernate, iBatis, Torque,
> > DBUtils, and straight JDBC implementations for commons-resource for this
> > very purpose.
> >
> > I moved the Hibernate impl over to sf.net because of license conflicts.
> >
> >
> > --
> > James Mitchell
> > Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> > EdgeTech, Inc.
> > 678.910.8017
> > AIM: jmitchtx
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Emmanuel Bourg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 12:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [configuration] handling exceptions in
AbstractConfiguration
> > implementations
> >
> >
> > > I don't want to sound harsh, but what is the added value of using
> > > Hibernate here for such a simple data structure ? A direct JDBC
> > > implementation is good enough and spare a 1.5MB dependency.
> > >
> > > Emmanuel Bourg
> > >
> > >
> > > Ricardo Gladwell wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I'm currently developing a sub-class of the AbstractConfiguration
> > > > classthat uses Hibernate to access configuration properties
> > > > (unimaginatively called Hibernate Configuration). I'm
> > slightly concerned
> > > > about the way sub-classes are suposed to handle exceptions:
> > > >
> > > > All the abstract method are defined as not throwing exceptions. All
> > > > calls to hibernate, however, throw HibernateExceptions. So,
> > for example,
> > > > my implementation of getPropertyDirect calls the hibernate
> > Session.get()
> > > > method which can throw an exception.
> > > >
> > > > Looking at your implementation of the DatabaseConfiguration I can
see
> > > > that it simply consumes SQLExceptions thrown from the JDBC
> > API, logging
> > > > the stack trace. However, what if you want to be warned of
exceptions
> > > > being thrown by the underlying implementation of Configuration?
> > > >
> > > > I notice you already have a nestable ConfigurationException
> > implemented.
> > > > Surely, all Configuration methods should indicate they will throw
this
> > > > exception if they are expected to read/write data?
> > > >
> > > > Also, the AbstractConfiguration class does not describe this
contract
> > > > (logging all errors throw by underlying framework) or what should be
> > > > returned in the event of an error? I assume you should return null
> > > > values but this is not described anywhere.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > -- Ricardo Gladwell
> > > >
> > >
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