On 7/20/06, Nestor Urquiza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Rahul ... could we reopen this issue? Seems like
the w3c working group is in its way to accept nested
<if>. Please could you read below the answer from them
as well as my reply about even the use of the <script>
tag?

<snip/>

I probably wasn't clear in my closing comment on SCXML-12 [1]. Nested
<if> statements should be no trouble. What I meant by <elseif> and
<else> being partitions, rather than containers, is that the following
snippet (as well as the snippet you post below) is malformed:

<if cond="...">
 <!-- if actions -->
 <else>
 <!-- else actions -->
 </else>
</if>

whereas it should be:

<if cond="...">
 <!-- if actions -->
 <else/>
 <!-- else actions -->
</if>

Further, the "if actions" or "else actions" may themselves contain
other if statements, and this may recurse to any arbitrary levels of
nesting.


I am currently with a lot of business rules to
evaluate and definetely when it comes to complexity a
good flow control/scripting mechanism is needed.
<snap/>

Commons SCXML will not develop a scripting language. However, if there
are expression languages that support scripting (neither EL nor JEXL's
latest releases support that -- EL won't ever, JEXL has script support
available in SVN trunk ATM so its next release should) they may be
plugged in to provide such <script> support. However, that is unlikely
to happen before a Commons SCXML 1.0 release (we're currently aiming
for a 0.5 release).

Note that a refined datamodel with a well-defined event lifecycle can
provide useful hooks for actions rather than resorting to ad-hoc
scripting. Time will tell us what the SCXML datamodel ends up looking
like.

-Rahul

[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SCXML-12


That
is my goal right now ... to make scxml suitable for
modeling and configuring complex business processes
like the State Oriented Business Protocol I am
building for my Company.
Thanks!,
Nestor

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Thanks a lot Barnett. Just for your information I am
using commons-scxml to manage a State Oriented
Business Protocol based on Harel Statecharts. As the
business rules grow the complexity needed grows as
well and without good flow control it is kind of
difficult to get efficient results.

I was wondering if besides having nested conditions
wouldn't be wonderful to be able to use the <script>
element (http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/#N107D9) using
ECMA inside or why not as commons-scxml has proposed
jexl or je as scripting languages. Do you think it
makes sense to use a <script> portion inside an
<onentry> just to setup final variables that could be
tested later on the <onentry> or <transiton> internal
FSM events?

Thanks!,
Nestor

--- "Barnett, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nestor,
>   After a little discussion in the group, it turns
> out that we weren't
> very clear on this either.  However, we have
> provisionally decided to
> allow them since VoiceXML does.  We will clarify the
> issue in the next
> public draft.
>
> - Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Nestor Urquiza
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [scxml] nested conditions
>
>
> Hello all,
> After reading http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/#N109D0 it
> is
> not clear to me if nested "<if>" are allowed. With
> an
> example is the code below supposed to be scxml
> valid?
> ...
> <n:if cond="status1 eq 'false'">
>    <!-- a first nested condition -->
>    <n:if cond="status2 eq 'true'  ">
>       <n:assign name="result" expr="'status1
> false'"/>
>    <n:else>
>       <n:assign name="result" expr="'statuses
> false'"/>
>    </n:else>
> <n:else>
>    <!-- another nested condition -->
>    <n:if cond="status2 eq 'true'  ">
>       <n:assign name="result" expr="'statuses
> true'"/>
>    <n:else>
>       <n:assign name="result" expr="'status2
> false'"/>
>    </n:else>
> </n:else>
> </n:if>
>
> Thanks,
> Nestor
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