The general tone on this item of discussion is "This is what I want/need,
therefore, that is the best solution (for everybody)".  What I have not seen
is any concession to gather information.  What I have seen is a lot of
data-free analysis.

What I would like to see is some examination of the traffic and what sort of
organization can be placed on it.

On 7/24/07, Jonathon Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Not arrogance or snobbery -- different view of reality.
>
> At this point, openmoko *is* a development project.  It's emphatically
not
> for Joe and Jane -- it says so on the web site, where you order your
phone.
> There are disclaimers all over the place.  It's not even for early
adopters
> -- it's for hackers and developers.  Explicitly.
>
> It is devoutly to be hoped that someday there will be a need for a forum
for
> Joe and Jane.  But as a real concern that's at *least* 6 months away.
More
> realistically, it will be a year before there is a unit that will be
robust
> enough for Joe and Jane.
Point well taken.  However, we are starting to get some interest from
people who fall into that middle ground category.  They follow
technology (to an extent) but aren't willing/capable to actively
develop.  So we are suggesting creating a forum to be able to answer
their basic questions...ones that they wouldn't register on a mailing
list to ask.

Mailing lists are great tools for keeping the developers in touch, and
so we should not change that (nor has that even been suggested).  We are
merely trying to establish another method to communicate with potential
customers, even if they aren't going to be purchasing for 6-12 months.

Sorry for being so aggressive in my posts, but seeing people shoot down
the thoughts/ideas just because it doesn't "suit them" is a little
arrogant/snobby.  Anyway, thanks for bringing the tone down a little and
making good solid points.

-Jonathon

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