Oh, ok. I was a bit surprised. Last time I checked my program scaled quite nicely against GnuGo, at least for low numbers of simulations up to about 97% winning rate. I suppose there could be some kind of plateau when nearing 100% due to some missing knowledge/skills that only GnuGo has.
Erik 2010/1/16 <dhillism...@netscape.net>: > Well, I thought "there seems to be a picture emerging" was sufficiently > hedged that it would be construed as a conjecture, not a conclusion. :) > I am thinking, in particular, of the scalability studies with Zen that > Hideki reported to this list in Oct. 2009. >> BTW, recently I've measured the strength (win rate) vs time for a move >> curves with Zen vs GNU Go and Zen vs Zen (self-play) on 19 x 19 board. >> Without opening book, it saturates between +400 and +500 Elo against >> GNU but doesn't upto +800 Elo in self-play. That's somewhat >> interesting (detail will be open soon at GPW-2009). >> Hideki > There was a bit more information provided in a sequence of posts to this > list during that month. I wonder if the paper is out now. > - Dave Hillis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik van der Werf <erikvanderw...@gmail.com> > To: computer-go <computer-go@computer-go.org> > Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:55 pm > Subject: Re: [computer-go] scalability analysis with pachi > > 2010/1/15 <dhillism...@netscape.net> >> >> Thank you for posting these interesting results There seems to be >> a picture emerging that MCTS engines scale very well in self play, and >> apparently against other MCTS engines, but not so well against the non-MCTS >> version of Gnugo. >> - Dave Hillis > > > Do you have any data to back that conclusion? > > Erik > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/