I'm not convinced that it's reducible (as in reductionism) to get to a rational (i.e. highly influenced by deterministic math) set of principles to describe Go (which appears to be a precondition to getting it mapped into your expert system). In fact, I don't think it can currently be done for a static Go position (assuming one is attempting to projecting it into the future to produce a probability about the outcome) unless it is in the end game (where the complexity has be significantly pruned to leave a much smaller search space). That said, I wish you the best of luck producing the set of principles. I would LOVE to see that breakthrough as it implies so many other awesome things.
I think we way underestimate how much complexity emerges from a single Go position, much less projecting that complexity forward temporally. It's why there is so much motivation to push MC as far as is possible. It tosses the most of the complexity aside in favor of extremely high levels of brute force combined with statistical analysis. And the engines that are attempting to bridge MC with a relatively simplistic expert engine are now finally approaching the upper levels of human cognitive ability (anything above 5 dan amateur is well into the upper levels of human cognitive ability in the domain of Go). So, just in case there might be a breakthrough one or two more MC iterations away, it's worth continuing to explore it even though it's starting to feel like it's now stuck in a local optima in the Go engine improvement search space. And I've personally been waiting for quantum computing to give the MC strategy another good kick in the pants. And that kick might be just enough to send it the rest of the way past the best human's ability. If so, that will be tragic as it means that just like Chess, brute force largely won...again. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Robert Jasiek <jas...@snafu.de> wrote: > On 09.09.2015 09:53, Petri Pitkanen wrote: > >> Too many contradicting heurestics >> > > The mid-term problem is not mutual contradiction of heuristics because > their careful study can remove the contradictions and establish a hierarchy > of principles. Only the problem of great number of principles to be coded > and maybe of the complexity of time remain. > > > -- > robert jasiek > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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