Hi Petr,
"Petr Baudis" <pa...@ucw.cz> > (I also think that it's algorithmically a lot more complicated to build > these analysis tools for Go, for example adding a good tsumego solver to > your program. It is not necessary to wait for a strong tsumego solver before spreading a nice analysis tool. Start with what you have and add new "modules" when they become available. (That is also the way, ChessBase did it.) > > > > ... And for that it would be very helpful to have a few popular top > > > > players > > > > using it. > > ... currently there is also no good analysis software in the Asian market. > > But you need to do marketing, write documentation, user interface, > recruit pro players... Right. And finding a strong pro as a PR locomotive should be one of the first steps. By the way: I started this thread not with the intention to force for instance Rémi into such a project, but I had in mind mainly suitable people from Japan or Korea. (I hope at leaast some of them are reading this.) > ... And most importantly, talk to the users, spread the word > and hear feedback. Right. That is exactly what ChessBase started to provide in the late 1980's for Chess. "We" need a company in particular dedicated to Go software, not one like Unbalance where computer Go is sort of a fifth wheel. > I don't think it pays off to target western market primarily in Go. Fully agreed. Make a nice Japanese or Korean Go analysis program available, and everything else will come by itself (including me learning Japanese or Korean language :-). > ... you must come from East Asia, or have a local company as a distributor. The success of ChessBase was that they were not existing already but were created only for the Chess software field. > (If I take a model example of CrazyStone as a program crossing the > barrier I mentioned, it uses a local producer to do the marketing and > distribution. with the problem: Unbalance is not specialized in computer Go. They even seem to have problems to understand what analysis in Go is. > ... This is *not meant as a criticism* of Remi, > ... For a Western programmer, trying to enter East > Asian markets as the "Matthias Wuellenweber" of Go, you need to find > your "Frederic Friedel" as a true partner fluent in that geo area, > which is challenging. Fully agreed. A Frederic Friedel for Go is needed - and he has to "activate" suitable top pro players. As a wrote in the German computer Go forum: on some days I regret that Go is not a Western game. Ingo. _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go