If Forward Foundation creates a method for distribution, then we could partner with Michel, and P2P foundation, as well as potentially others interested, in the co-governance of the project as it lives in multiple places, but is archived in a uniform/open archive method.
Forward Foundation would be glad to take the ownership and responsibility. Both Paul and myself helped work on the site code, the summaries, and the blogging/community/etc and we're both very intimately familiar with the content within. We are also both familiar with many of the people in the community that emerged around CoCo. FF is working now on contributing more to the pool of research for CoCo as part of regular Forward Found activities. Further growth will likely depend on multiple people, rather than just one person. I think that OK, P2P foundation, and FF could all easily partner and collaborate on co-governance of the project, on helping to grow and promote, and on growing it in distributed ways. I propose a networked partnership between our groups, assuming all are interested, in carrying out the co-governance, promoting, growing, and creating a way to distribute the content. So, this means that it could live on P2P wiki, OK wiki, and FF, plus a revised version of the site itself, which now aggregates from those 3 wikis, when a category is placed on a new summary, or when it is changed to type "Publish CoCo" in OK and FF, and all could be synced with an archive which itself is output in a standard archiving format. Co-governance could be handled by way of timed consensus polling of partner groups (we could establish a simple constitution first) <-- Howard could be involved in as much or little of this as he wishes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus_polling Furthermore, both P2P foundation in europe, and FF in US could seek funding or donation for the ongoing maint. of CoCo and it's archives, and the added value from distributing it and making it available in multiple formats. What do you think? On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2...@gmail.com> wrote: > wherever it will be located, further growth will be dependent on someone > taking ownwership/responsibiltiy of the project, and motivating others .. > just placing it with a general request won't lead to much further growth I > think, > > is there such a person? > > Michel > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Howard Rheingold <howard.rheing...@att.net> > wrote: >> >> My original hope was that many people would build on our summaries and >> that the original summaries would serve as models of the level of quality >> we'd like to see. So, yes! >> >> Howard Rheingold how...@rheingold.com http://twitter.com/hrheingold >> http://www.rheingold.com http://www.smartmobs.com >> http://vlog.rheingold.com >> what it is ---> is --->up to us >> >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Samuel Rose wrote: >> >>> Could also be interesting to see people contributing summaries at p2p >>> found, and we will be doing similar summaries as forward foundation, >>> and also making those public as well. So, we as forward foundation >>> could make an archive from many participants who are contributing, and >>> also give them a way to import contributions from the network. >>> >>> What do you think about that? >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Howard Rheingold >>> <howard.rheing...@att.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you for your kind offer, Michel. It isn't in danger of >>>> disappearing, >>>> but I've been paying for the server for years now, and I have half a >>>> dozen >>>> such subscriptions, so I am thinking of handing it off to a more >>>> permanent >>>> home that won't depend on me renewing the hosting subscription every >>>> year. I >>>> like the idea of exportable local copies with embedded attribution. We >>>> should probably put a cc license on it right away. >>>> >>>> There is no urgency. If Stanford doesn't step up, let's look at moving >>>> it to >>>> Sam's or your server. I was interested in the alliance with the >>>> Persuasive >>>> Technology Lab because maybe they could recruit students to add >>>> summaries >>>> and blog posts. >>>> >>>> Howard Rheingold how...@rheingold.com http://twitter.com/hrheingold >>>> http://www.rheingold.com http://www.smartmobs.com >>>> http://vlog.rheingold.com >>>> what it is ---> is --->up to us >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 3:57 AM, Samuel Rose wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't think there is a danger of losing the actual content, as there >>>>> are many places the site/db can be hosted. Although, it could be >>>>> useful for people to have an exportable local copy (think about things >>>>> like p2pwiki, http://thewikireader.com/ etc etc) so eventually we >>>>> could make it possible for people to import into their mediawikis, and >>>>> other places, with embedded attribution if Howard agrees. (There is no >>>>> declared license on the content on the site). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Michel Bauwens >>>>> <michelsub2...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> you ask how we can strengthen CoCo ... just a general statement, I am >>>>>> swamped myself, any cooperation is welcome as long as it aligns with >>>>>> what >>>>>> I'm already doing for p2p-f ... I have a question about the archive of >>>>>> CoCo, >>>>>> which had done so much serious work around the cooperation literature. >>>>>> Depending on howard's and the coco community wishes, if there is a >>>>>> danger >>>>>> of >>>>>> it disappearing, then certainly, I would be very open to incorporate >>>>>> as a >>>>>> project on the p2p-f wiki. It seems there is a natural fit, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Howard, there could be some useful connections for whatever CoCo in >>>>>>> the way that Open Kollab, P2P Foundation, and Forward Foundation are >>>>>>> starting to collaborate in effective ways. At least, in terms of >>>>>>> ongoing research, maintaining of open knowledge bases, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are refining and improving weekly the way that we all work >>>>>>> together. It would be really awesome to figure out how to efficiently >>>>>>> and usefully integrate CoCo into this emerging ecology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many of us met in CoCo list, and we are now really seriously digging >>>>>>> into some worthwhile projects and collaborations, and synthesizing of >>>>>>> workflows. So, I agree with Matt that CoCo as project or community is >>>>>>> definitely missed here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> c> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Matt Cooperrider >>>>>>> <mattcooperri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> just thinking about CoCo after Marc Dangeard's recent post there. >>>>>>>> Howard >>>>>>>> mentioned he's got a new partnership/funding opportunity to reboot >>>>>>>> coco. >>>>>>>> Since CoCo is very research-focused, it seems complementary to OK. >>>>>>>> maybe >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> should get Howard on a call just to trade ideas? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> also, as I type this, i realize that marc dangeard's work with >>>>>>>> entrepreneur >>>>>>>> commons - http://entrepreneurcommons.googlepages.com/ - is right in >>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>> with the OKfund >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> any thoughts? mybe we can talk about this tomorrow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Matt Cooperrider, Consultant >>>>>>>> BLOG: http://mattcoop.com >>>>>>>> SITE: http://collabforge.com >>>>>>>> TWITTER: @mattcoop >>>>>>>> PHONE: 774.487.8152 >>>>>>>> M.O.: http://notanemployee.net/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sam Rose >>>>>>> Social Synergy >>>>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>>>> email: samuel.r...@gmail.com >>>>>>> http://socialsynergyweb.com >>>>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>>>> http://socialsynergyweb.org/culturing >>>>>>> http://flowsbook.panarchy.com/ >>>>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>>>> http://localfoodsystems.org >>>>>>> http://notanemployee.net >>>>>>> http://communitywiki.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>>>>>> ambition." - Carl Sagan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University - >>>>>> Research: >>>>>> http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html - Think thank: >>>>>> http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI >>>>>> >>>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>>> >>>>>> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >>>>>> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >>>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Sam Rose >>>>> Social Synergy >>>>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>>>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>>>> skype: samuelrose >>>>> email: samuel.r...@gmail.com >>>>> http://socialsynergyweb.com >>>>> http://forwardfound.org >>>>> http://socialsynergyweb.org/culturing >>>>> http://flowsbook.panarchy.com/ >>>>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>>>> http://localfoodsystems.org >>>>> http://notanemployee.net >>>>> http://communitywiki.org >>>>> >>>>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>>>> ambition." - Carl Sagan >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Sam Rose >>> Social Synergy >>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 >>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 >>> skype: samuelrose >>> email: samuel.r...@gmail.com >>> http://socialsynergyweb.com >>> http://forwardfound.org >>> http://socialsynergyweb.org/culturing >>> http://flowsbook.panarchy.com/ >>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com >>> http://localfoodsystems.org >>> http://notanemployee.net >>> http://communitywiki.org >>> >>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human >>> ambition." - Carl Sagan >> > > > > -- > Work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhurakij_Pundit_University - Research: > http://www.dpu.ac.th/dpuic/info/Research.html - Think thank: > http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI > > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org > > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > > > > -- -- Sam Rose Social Synergy Tel:+1(517) 639-1552 Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451 skype: samuelrose email: samuel.r...@gmail.com http://socialsynergyweb.com http://forwardfound.org http://socialsynergyweb.org/culturing http://flowsbook.panarchy.com/ http://socialmediaclassroom.com http://localfoodsystems.org http://notanemployee.net http://communitywiki.org "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." - Carl Sagan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CooperationCommons" group. 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