I also see this relatively frequently when refining models in low res maps.

Cheers
Oli

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:29:41 +0100, Martin Montgomery <m...@mrc-mbu.cam.ac.uk> 
wrote:

>Hi Paul,
>
>I have been seeing this occasionally with coot 0.8.4 onward (currently using 
>0.8.7-pre) even with data to 2.5 Å.  It usually happens if I use the “auto fit 
>rotamer" on a neighbouring residue.
>It can be tricky to sort out sometimes taking several goes with “regularise 
>zone” then “real space refine”.
>
>Regards
>
>MGM
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>> On 13 Oct 2016, at 02:45, Paul Emsley <pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> On 12/10/2016 13:43, Kevin Jude wrote:
>>> I am frequently getting distortions of proline residues during real space 
>>> refinement -
>>> specifically, close approaches between C and CD (pictured). It's hard to 
>>> nail down exactly
>>> what is happening but it seems like planar peptide restraints aren't 
>>> working for Pro
>>> residues.
>> 
>> That's weird - I have not seen that before. The C-N-CD angle restraints 
>> should keep these atoms apart.  You should tabulate ligand distortions to 
>> investigate.
>> 
>> Paul.
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