Roger B.A. Klorese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Julian Mehnle wrote: > > Well, well. Some Internet Service Providers or Internet > > Access Providers (e.g. Earthlink or some hotels) provide > > crippled Internet access by blocking random IP ports. So > > what? That's neither SPF's nor YASAF's fault. > > It's not about fault. It's about utility for users. Cutting off a > significant percentage of users of the net because you don't approve of > how their service providers manage port 25 connections is just hostile. > > > IMO this is absolutely irrelevant to any "SPF vs. YASAF" discussion. > > It may affect you, but as Roland already put it so bluntly, go > > bitch the braindead ISPs. > > Well, first, I wouldn't "bitch them" because I don't disagree with > them. I think they have every right to limit those connections. > Second, since their actions don't break any extant standards, new ones > should be worked around their behavior, not the other way around.
Nobody except you said anything about cutting anybody off the Internet. Not every ISP and hotel blocks port 25. As long as people don't realize this and still keep using such broken ISPs and go to such broken hotels, they will have to live with it. You can't buy a fork and then demand that suppliers of instant soup meals "work around" their future products to suit your fork. Besides, granting someone a differing opinion and agreeing with him are two entirely different things. Of course any ISP may sell any Internet access product he wants, which may be as crippled as he wants. But I don't have to agree with what they're doing. And certainly *I* wouldn't like any new standards getting deformed just to accommodate even the most crippled Internet access. If that were the case, I'd be propagating "7-bit SMTP forever" plus something as braindead as RFC 2047/2231. Oops, did I say anything? ;-) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
