Malcolm Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Julian Mehnle wrote:
> > while some people think it
> > should be generally adopted *instead* of rivaling schemes
> > like SPF due to Yahoo's 800lb Gorilla factor.
> 
> And you know that... How?
> 
> Fact is that 'YASAF' does more.  So how do you know that people aren't
> thinking it should be generally adopted due to the fact that it does
> more? 

I didn't say that there are no other reasons for people.  But as became evident in 
this thread, some people *do* think that YASAF should be generally adopted over SPF 
because of Yahoo's 800lb Gorilla factor -- of course among other reasons.  And this 
bothers me, because most detais of YASAF aren't even available yet.  Unfortunately, 
market force seems to be more important than technical soundness or fitness for the 
purpose (yeah, alright, we don't exactly agree on the purpose).

> That's my point.  You're simply pissed at Yahoo's scheme because,
> apparently, it isn't SPF.  Not because of what it is.

This is not true.  I have no financial or emotional affiliation with SPF or its author 
whatsoever.

> > > [...] Garlinghouse said Yahoo is seeking a patent on the DomainKeys
> > > technology, but will license it at no charge to anyone who wants it.
> > > Yahoo is also creating software that will add the
> > > capability to Qmail
> > > and Sendmail, two of the most common e-mail server programs. This
> > > software will be distributed free. [...]
> > 
> > "free"?  That sure *sounds* like "free bear", not "free
> > speech".  But we won't know for sure until we hear more from
> > Yahoo.  Let's wait and see...
> 
> Get over yourself, Julian!  Since Yahoo isn't *preventing* you from
> implementing whatever the heck you want, it *is* 'free speech': you can
> implement SPF, ignore Yahoo, do whatever the blue blazes you want.

Sure they aren't preventing anybody from anything, I never said that.  What I meant to 
say is that it appears they won't release their software as free software, free as in 
"free speech".

To set things clear, if it wasn't for the overkill and the danger of commercialization 
by Yahoo, I'd very well start thinking of implementing YASAF (as soon as the specs are 
available).

> Also, there are sound reasons to patent this sort of thing, not least of
> which is the protection of the technology against claims of
> infringement [...]

The finding of "prior art" would protect them anyway.



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