Cryptography-Digest Digest #811, Volume #11      Thu, 18 May 00 10:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Interesting differentials in BREAKME (Raphael Phan)
  Re: random.org? ("Steve and Darla Wells")
  Re: AES final comment deadline is May 15 (DJohn37050)
  Please help to decipher ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:20:32 +0800
From: Raphael Phan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Interesting differentials in BREAKME

Hi,

Adam Durana wrote:

> > Ok, Mark, so how did you manage to get a differential of 32/256?  Could
> you
> > enclose your difference distribution table for us?
>
> When I created the s-boxes 32 was the maximum differential.  Below is the
> table.  The rows are the input XOR and the columns are the output XOR.
>
>   256    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0
> 0
>     4   28   18    6   16   12   10   10   30   18    6   22   24   14   16
> 22
>    18   12   14   14   12   22   20   20   14   14   22   16   18   16   22
> 2
>    10   28   18   16    0   18   18   16   14   28   16   22   12   16   12
> 12
>    12   18   18   10   16    8   22   20   22   22    8   26   20    8   14
> 12
>    12   24   26   26    8   22   10   16   12   10   26    4   14   12   12
> 22
>    12   18   18   18   14   10   24   18    6   16   10   18   18   16   22
> 18
>    16   14    6   18   22   18   16   18   16   12   16   14   12   20   16
> 22
>     8   14   14   24   12   22   14   24   28    8    8   12   12   22   20
> 14
>    22   28   12   22   18    8   16   10   10   10   18   10   16   10   20
> 26
>    24    6   22   12   20   16   12   12   14   26   14   14   20   12   14
> 18
>    12   22    6   12   26   14   14   18   26    8   18   20   12   22   14
> 12
>    24    8   22   22   16   12   16    8    6    8   18   20   16   16   26
> 18
>    22   14   30   12    8   10   20   20   16    4   12   22   10   26   14
> 16
>    18    6   22   14   16   20   12   12   12   30   18   24    8   20   10
> 14
>    14   30   14   18   14   22   16   20   12   10   10   16   24   16    8
> 12
>     4   12   22   12   18   20   16   20   28    8   22   12   14   14   12
> 22
>    22   18   16   28   14    6   18   10   22   12   14   12   10   18   24
> 12
>    10   10   14   20   16   10   24   12   16   20   22    8   18   26   12
> 18
>    16   22   18   14   28   14   16   16   10    6   14   28   12   10    6
> 26
>    18   14   30   12   10    4   10   22   24   16    4   26   16    8   20
> 22
>     8   12    4   14   24   18   24   20   22   22   10    8   14   18   18
> 20
>    10   20   10    8   18   18   10   14   18   10   14   18   18   30   22
> 18
>    24   14   22   14   12   16   18   12   24   20   12   10   18   10   10
> 20
>    22   16   16   14   18    6   16   20   14   22   16   16   16    8   18
> 18
>    16    8   14   20    6   12   16    8   14   26   10   24   16   24   16
> 26
>    10   18   22   14   20   20   14   10   12   10   22   24   14   14   18
> 14
>    20    8   14   30   12   22    8   22    6   14   18   10   22   18   16
> 16
>    18   16   14   18   12   14   20   16   18   14   20    6   20   10   18
> 22
>    24   18   14   22   12   14   12   12   24   16   20   14    8   10   22
> 14
>    10   14   26   14   14   12   12   26   14   28   14   12   14   16   16
> 14
>     6   22    8   18   18   18   22   12   16   16   14   20   14   12   10
> 30
>    20   18   14   20   18   14    8   24   18   20   12   14   10   24    8
> 14
>    12   22   18   22   20   18   10   10   16   14    6   18   16   16   10
> 28
>    18    8   26   16   12   22   10   20   18   18   20   12   14   12   22
> 8
>    14   12   16   22   16   14   18   20   28   16   18   10   12   14   14
> 12
>    14    8   14   14   14   20   10   14   18   14   18   12   26   28   26
> 6
>    12   22   12   24   22   16   22   14   18   10   20   10   24   10    6
> 14
>    18   12   16   14   14   20   20   10   18   14   18   30   24   10   12
> 6
>    24   14   22   22   14   18   16   14   18    8   16   12   16   14   18
> 10
>    24   20   18   20   12   18    4   20    8   16   18   12   10   14   22
> 20
>    12   24   14   12    8   14   20   16   22   10   20   18   18   10   22
> 16
>    16   14   12    8   14   16   14   26   20   26   18   22   10   18   12
> 10
>    20   24   14   24   12   12   20   10   18   10   16   22   14    4   18
> 18
>    10   20   16   18   12   20   12   20    8   30   14   24   14   16   10
> 12
>    20   22   20   10   12   18   20   14   20   14   18    4   16   16   18
> 14
>    14   20   16   16   12   16   14   20   14   22   10   16   28   12   12
> 14
>    18   12   14   12   26   18   16    8   32    6   22   24   14   16    6
> 12
>    10   20   12   16   16   18   12   20   18   10   20   18   20   14   12
> 20
>    10    6   18   26   12    6   14   12   12   20   30   22   18   18   18
> 14
>    14   14   16   16   24   14   16   18   14   16   16   26    8   18    8
> 18
>     8    6   12    8   26   14   24   22   20    4   18   16   24   28   16
> 10
>    12   20   20   16   10   18   14   10   26   16   24   14   12   12   14
> 18
>    14   14   22   12   20    6   14   10   12   16   26   16   18   14   26
> 16
>    20   16   12   14   16   16   16   22   18   20   14   22   16   12   12
> 10
>     8   14    8   10   18   22   14   10   18   18   24   24   22   10    8
> 28
>    10   20   20   18   22   12   10   16   14   20   14   16   14   14   16
> 20
>     8   12   12   18   18   10   20   10   16   24   24   14   18   16   24
> 12
>    14   16   20   22    8   14    8   22   22   10   20   16   22   16   10
> 16
>    12   16    8   24   22   14   12   12   18   24   18   24   16   12    6
> 18
>    14   28   10   14   12   14   18   18   12   14   12   16   18   18   12
> 26
>    10   20   10   24   24   14   16   30   10   12   12    6   24   20   10
> 14
>    10   10   10   10   12   16   30   10   14   16   28   22   18   14   22
> 14
>    22    2   20    4   18   18   16   20   20   22   24    6   12   16   16
> 20
>    18   12   22   14   16   14   16   12   20   18   18   18   18   14   12
> 14
>    20   14    6   26   22    8   16   12    8   12   18   20   28   14   18
> 14
>    14   12   16   22    8   16   18   14   20   20   10   18   16   16   18
> 18
>    12   18   16   18   14   14   12   12   22   18   20   12   12   20   16
> 20
>    16   12   16   14    6   18   12   14   14   20   14   18   16   24   22
> 20
>    14   14   14   16   22   16   20   16   16   18   30   14   18    8    6
> 14
>     8   24   16   22   14   10    4   18   18   14   24   22    6   24   14
> 18
>     8   10   28   10   18   20   28   10   14   12   16   10   22   22   14
> 14
>    18   12   18   14   14    6   12   22   18   16   10   14   16   18   22
> 26
>    16    4   10   14   12   16   18   22   24   10    8   18   20   20   20
> 24
>    10   16   12   12   16   20   14   12   20   22   10   18   14   20   24
> 16
>    24   12   22   12    6   20   16   12   16    8   14    8   26   22   16
> 22
>    18   16   14   12   20   18   14   24   12   14   22   16   10   18   18
> 10
>    16   20   14   16   10   20   12   12   12   22    8   16   24   14   16
> 24
>    18   14   22   16   10   10   16   26   10   16   16   16   18   14   14
> 20
>    10   14   20   22   10   14   12   14    6   24   18   26   12   16   28
> 10
>    20    4   18   16   26   24    8   16    8   12   14    8   10   18   28
> 26
>    10   20   12   22   12    6   26   16   20   16   12   28   16    6   16
> 18
>    30   16   16   14   20   16   18   10    8   14   22   12   14   24   12
> 10
>     8   12   14   10   16   16   18   14   16   14   10   20   24   24   22
> 18
>    12   18   18   14   16   14   12   20   14   28   14   14   20   24   10
> 8
>    14   18   10   20   16   16   12   18   18   16   10   10   22   18   18
> 20
>    20   12   10    8   22   20   20   12   16   16    8   10   28   12   20
> 22
>    22   26   14    6   16   14   12   18   16   16   18   10   20   28   10
> 10
>    18   14   22   20   16   16   18   20   10   16   14   14   16   16   14
> 12
>    12   18   20   14   14   14   16   12   10   18   16   12   16    8   24
> 32
>    24    8   16   20   10   14   20   24   12   10   20   14    8   16   14
> 26
>    12   20   12   16   18   22   14   14   22   10   22   14   12   14   16
> 18
>    30   16   14    6   20   14   18   10   18   22   14   16   22    8   12
> 16
>    18   12    2   26   24   16   24   22   20   16    4   14   10   22   14
> 12
>    14   18   22   10   14   14   18   14   12   20   14   14    8   30   14
> 20
>    22   24   16   18   16   22   12   14   16    8   12   12   10   20   12
> 22
>    24   24   12   20   16   16    8   24   14   20   18   16    6   10    6
> 22
>    16   20    8    4   18   10   26   26   18   14   18   26   16   18    4
> 14
>    10   12   10   20   16   20   24   16    8   18   18   16   16   18   26
> 8
>    22   20   22   20   14    6   22   14   12   12   12   12   18   10   22
> 18
>    10   22   14    6    6   28   10   20   30   18   16   16   12   16   18
> 14
>    32   18   14   16   10   18   16   16   14   22   16   16    4   12   22
> 10
>    14    8   30   16   18   16   14   16   12   12    8   16   26   12   30
> 8
>    10   12   10   14   20   14   18   14   12   18   28   16   28    8   10
> 24
>    16    8   16    8   16   10   14   24   18   16   22   20   26   16   16
> 10
>    18   18   16   22    4   18   10   14   16   20   16   18   12   20   20
> 14
>    14   26   30    6   12   14   12   14   16   12   14   18   26   10   12
> 20
>    16   14    8   16   20   22   12   16   10   20   14   18   16   24   16
> 14
>    18   14   20   18   20   18   18   18    8    6   22   14   20   18   14
> 10
>     8   20   10   18   18   18   22    6   20   22   28   18    8   12   10
> 18
>    18    8   12   22   16   14   20   18   14   12   22   24   14   14   16
> 12
>    12   18   24   10   16   10   12   14   18   12   12   18   22   26   16
> 16
>    22   14   14   22   20   16   10   26   10   22   12   12   10   20   14
> 12
>    16   26   22    8   14   24   16   18   12   12   10   10   24   14   14
> 16
>    22   14   12   10   16   24   18   16   10   16   10   18   26   14   18
> 12
>    10   24    6   16   28   18   12   18   26    8   12   18   14   18   12
> 16
>    16   14   22   22    6   14   16   14   30   20   14   14    8   10   16
> 20
>     4   10   12   22   18   16   26   16   16   18   16   14   14   14   22
> 18
>     6   14   20    8   28   18   14   12   24   18   16   18   14   12   14
> 20
>    14   24   12   26   14   20   14   16   22   10   24    4   10   20   14
> 12
>    18   18   16   14   14   20   12   20   16   14   14   14   12   18   18
> 18
>    10   20   10   22   26   18   16   10   24    8   22   16    6   18   14
> 16
>    16   14   16   18   24   24   12   20   22   12   14   16   10   16   10
> 12
>     8    8   12   16   22   16   20   18   16   18   16   10   26   12   12
> 26
>    12   10   12   14   12   20   26   22   22   26    8    8   22   10   10
> 22
>    14   30   18   18   12   18   16   22   16   16    8   12    6   22   18
> 10
>    20   10   16   30   14   22   16   16    8   14   20   10   18    8   20
> 14
>    10    8   20   14   10   26   22   22   18   14   10   14   20   16   18
> 14
>    14   18   18   12   16   12   12   18   12   26   20   12   12   20   20
> 14
>    16   14   26   20   14   14    8   16   20   16   18   10   20   16   14
> 14
>    20   16   12   16   20   18   22    8    6   22   18   14   12   20   18
> 14
>    14   22   12    6    0   16   12   22   26   14   20   10   20   26   20
> 16
>    14   16   12   10    6   16   18    8   20   16   16   24   22   20   16
> 22
>    20   18   10   16   22   10   14   22    8   10   12   22   26    4   32
> 10
>    12   22   16   14   14   20   10   16   22   12    6   20   16   24    8
> 24
>    14   20   16   10   20   16   14   10   10   18   22   18   20    8   24
> 16
>    12   22   14   18   16   16   22   12   16   18   12   12   30    8   14
> 14
>    16   18    6   20   14   16   14   24   22   28   10   16   14   14   20
> 4
>    12   16   32   18   18   10   18   12   10   20   16   12   12   20   22
> 8
>    20   12   16    8   18   24   16   10   10   14   22   10   18   22   12
> 24
>    18   14   12   18   24    8    6   12   10   16   22   18   16   28   16
> 18
>    12   16   20   20    8   18   24   14   14   14   14   10   24   12   12
> 24
>    18   10   16   12   14   18   16   16   22   10   30   14   10   12   18
> 20
>    10   20   14   14   16   18   16   24   18   16    8   20   18   18   20
> 6
>    14   20   12   18   12   24   24   12   16   14   14   16   12   18   16
> 14
>    16   20    8   18   20   18    8   20    8   18   24   12   18   16   22
> 10
>     8   22    8   26   14   20   22   24   10   14    6   18   18   12   14
> 20
>    20   14   12   12   20   12   14   12   20   14   18   14   14   28   14
> 18
>    22   16   10   12   18   20   18   20   16   12   12   16   18    8   22
> 16
>    12   20   18   28   20   12   20    6   16   20   16   18   18   12    8
> 12
>    16   16   26   12   14   22   12   14   24    4   18   12   10   20   16
> 20
>    14   16   12   16   14    8   22   18   14   24   26   10   10   14   24
> 14
>    18   14   16   20   20   24   16   12   16    6    6   24   10   14   18
> 22
>    10    6   22   22   24   14   22   12    6   20   20   10   24   14   20
> 10
>     8   22   16   22   12   22   16   14    8   14   12   14   22   18   14
> 22
>    14   16   20   24   24   12   10   16    8   22   22   14    4   14   22
> 14
>     6   18   12   14   12   16   18   32   14   12   14   14   18   14   22
> 20
>    24   12   24   16   28   14   18   24   16    0   18   14    6   10   18
> 14
>    10   18   22   18    8   22   12   14   12   20    8   28   12   20   12
> 20
>     8   22   12   10   14   18   20    8   20    6   16   18   22   24   24
> 14
>    12   14   20   24   24   14   20   20   18   12   14   10    8   16   16
> 14
>     6   18   24   10   14   14   14   12   18   20   26   22   16   24   10
> 8
>    20    8   18   20   16   10   12   20   18   14   10   16   14   22   20
> 18
>    12   16   18    8    8   14   12   16   20   12   28   22   14   18   20
> 18
>    10   10   18   16   12   22   14   18   18   20   14   18   14   20   16
> 16
>    14   18    8   14   28   16   18    8   20   22   14   14   28   16   10
> 8
>    16   12   10   14   18   16   22   16   18   20    6   20   22   16   16
> 14
>    16   24   28    6   14   10   18   16   18   18   16   14   18   12   12
> 16
>    12   12   14   14   24    8   26   18   10   24   16   10   18   10   28
> 12
>    18   10   16    8   10   24   10   32   18   12   18   16   20   18   14
> 12
>    22   16   12    8   24    8   30   20   12   12   16   18   14   18   14
> 12
>    14   18   18   14   12   18   14   20   10   30    8   12   12   16   20
> 20
>    10   16   20    2   18   20   16   10   14   20   28   18   10   26   12
> 16
>    16   14   12   16   16   18   18   14   14   20   14   18   16   16   22
> 12
>    30   14    6   16   12   14   14   18   20   16   16   14   22   14   12
> 18
>    12   26   10   16   16   20   16   16   20   20   10   18   16   12   16
> 12
>    18   24   24    8    8   32   14    8   12   20   16   10   12   20   24
> 6
>    14   12   12   18   22   10   16   24   10   14   20   12   14   18   20
> 20
>    16    8   16    8   18   16   26   12   18   16   14   20   28   14   12
> 14
>    18    4   16   16   28   20   14   20   12   20   12   18   10   18   14
> 16
>    16   12   20    8   26   22   20   16   16    8   18   10   22   24    6
> 12
>    20   12   14   12   22   22   20   22    6   14   18   24    8   14    8
> 20
>    10   14   22   18   18   12   18   24   10   18   10   10   22   10   22
> 18
>    10   14    8   18   12   26   28   20   14   20   14   14   12   14   18
> 14
>     2   26   26   14   10   14   26   10    4   12   22   22   12   22   22
> 12
>    18   22   18   20   14   12   16   12    8   14   16   20    4   22   14
> 26
>     6   28   16   10   14   14   16   16   18   14   20   16   26    2   20
> 20
>    20   16   10   26   22   16   18   12   26    8    8   10   12   26   16
> 10
>    10   14   18   22   22   24   18   12   12   22   12   18   10   24   10
> 8
>     8   10   20   24   16   16   16   14   20   16   12   14   24   16    8
> 22
>    12   14   18   12   20   14   12   26   24   12   18   14   14    8   18
> 20
>    20   16   12   14    8   10   28    8   16   26   14   14   14   16   24
> 16
>    18   14   16   18   22   22   18   16   10   10   18   16   16   14   18
> 10
>    16   12   10   16   24   18   14   10   16   20   18   20   18   14   20
> 10
>    18   26   22   16    6   18   16   18   16   16   10   16   18   16   10
> 14
>     8   18    8   22   16   14   18   16   20   24   20   12   12   18   14
> 16
>    22   18   24   14   20   20   10   20   16   12   16   14   16   14   12
> 8
>    18    6   18   26   16    6   22   16   20   12   12   12   28   20   10
> 14
>    22   20   14   16   16   18   18   20   14   12   22   12   12   12   18
> 10
>    20   18   18   12   24   14    8   18   18   10   10   22   14    8   16
> 26
>    20   10   16   22    8   26   10   20    8   10   18   16   22   18   10
> 22
>    16   16   20   22   18   10   22   16   10   14   24   22    6   12   12
> 16
>    10   24   28   14   10   18   12   20   20   18   14   12   12   10   14
> 20
>    22   22   14   12    8   14   24   20    8   10   18   14   10   16   32
> 12
>    14   14   20   26   16   22   16   12   16   24   14   16   10   10   18
> 8
>    28   12   14   10   18   16   18   20   18   14   10   18   14   14   20
> 12
>    12   16   16   26   16   12   10   20   16   20    8   22   18    8   20
> 16
>    16   18   16   20   12   12   14   12   20   20   24   14   16   16   14
> 12
>     8   14   18   20   14   20   16   18   22   16   20   14   18   10   12
> 16
>    16    8   20   20   12   14   16   18   18    8   24   14   16   18   18
> 16
>     8   18    8   22   16   10   18    8   18   18    8   12   24   22   20
> 26
>    12   22   24   22   14   10    6   22   12   12   12    8   22   18   18
> 22
>    22   20   22    6   14   16    8   12   28   12   22   12   14   16   14
> 18
>    24   16   12   24   10   14   10   18   14   26   12   20   14    8   16
> 18
>    18   18   20    4   18   12   14   16   18   18    8   16   20   20   20
> 16
>    18   24   12   20   26   18   20   14   12   16   16   14   16    8   12
> 10
>    16   18   18   12   22   14   16   12   16   24   18   14   14   14   12
> 16
>    20   10   14   20    6   22   10   14   18   10   10   22   22   26   20
> 12
>    18   22   12   14   12   14   20   16   16   18   14   18   10   12   14
> 26
>    14   18   14   16   12   16   10   12   24   18   20   16   10   18   16
> 22
>    12   10   12    8   28   12   20   14   22   10   14   12   20   16   24
> 22
>    12   12   14   20   22   16    8   16   22    8   26   14   22   16   10
> 18
>    12   24   12   14   14   10   16   14   14   12   16   16   10   22   22
> 28
>     8   26   14   16    6   16   16   14   10   30   12    8   22   16   20
> 22
>    14   12   12   10   12   18   18   20   26   22   10   26   14   12   18
> 12
>    14   16   26   28   20   14   14   12   14   18   18   26    6   12   12
> 6
>    22   12   20    6   22   12   14    8   26    8   22   20   18   22   20
> 4
>    24   28   18   14   18    6   20   12   12   18   18   16   16    8   18
> 10
>    10   16   20   18   18   12   18   20   16   20   16   16   20   14   10
> 12
>    10   20   20   20   18   16   18   10    8   22   24   20   14   18    8
> 10
>    16   14   10   12   10   22   14   14   18   10    8   28   30   10   26
> 14
>    18   14   16   20   16   22   14   24   20   12   14   14   10   18   12
> 12
>     8   20   16   14   20   18   20    8   18   10   12   22   24   16   14
> 16
>    12   10   18   18   20   24   14   16   12   24   20    6   14   14   18
> 16
>    12   10   14   16   10   28   32   18   18   10   10   18    6   16   18
> 20
>    22   12   20   26   16   20   12   20    8   14   12   14   10   16   12
> 22
>    18   18   12   26   20   20   12   30    8   24   14   16    8   14   12
> 4
>    10   10   18   14   16   14   22   12   20   16   16   28   20   16   10
> 14
>    20   14   24   22   18   16   14   12    6   18   18   18   10   16   14
> 16
>    18   18   20    8   12   20   22    6   18   10   20   24   22   16   12
> 10
>    10   20   18   22   18   22   14   12    8   16   20   10   14   22   14
> 16
>    10   20   14    4   18   24   24   10   12   18   18   16   12   20   28
> 8
>    26   14   12   20   16   10   18   16   16   16   10    6   22   14   20
> 20
>    14    8   10   18   14   12   10   14   28   10   24   20   22   14   18
> 20
>    14   20   12   20   16   12   20   18   12   20   22   12   12   16    8
> 22
>    12   16    8   14   22   10   16   18   10   14   24   18   16   14   24
> 20
>    16   18   18   10   18   14   20    6   18   22   16   18   12   16    6
> 28
>    18   14   18   14   18   14   14   14   20   18   10   16   16   16   14
> 22
>    16   18   22   14   26   20   10   14   12   22   14   18   16   16    4
> 14
>    14   18   14   12   14   18    6   16   18   24   20   12   14   30   12
> 14
>    10   12   22   14   16   16   12   10   18   24   14   14   24   22   16
> 12
>    22   12   24   10   18   16   20   18   16   18    8   18    8   20   16
> 12
>     6   12   10   18   16   18   18   14   18   20   20   24   10   14   14
> 24
>    10   18   20   14   10   14   12   22   18   18   12   30   10   20   16
> 12
>    12   18   16   14   18   16   12   14   14   16   30   20   16   12   14
> 14
>    16   14   14   24   18    8   10   16   22   16   16   22   14    6   26
> 14

Ah yes... you are right.. sorry, made a mistake in my code.

Raphael

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From: "Steve and Darla Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: random.org?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:16:20 -0700

"Jacques Willekens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:RLLU4.1459$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> RecilS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8fvr58$vf2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Does anyone know the quality level of random.org?  It explains what
> > random numbers are and that it retrieves them from radio wave noise,
> > but fails to mention whether you're getting fresh numbers, rehashes,
> > etc.
> > Also, does anyone know of a real-time stock market level server (Dow
> > Jones preferably but any will do)?
> > Obviously I'm trying to find a good source of online random numbers
> > so any other sources would also be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > - - RecilS
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>
> >
> > iQA/AwUBOSNwFBJETAFqh0RgEQIg+wCcC2Az75F6Sbdb/aUTKtXvo6Q5J70AoKek
> > ejnla5OiBOyFVOlCqiNWoYY+
> > =Tpd2
> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
> You may take a look at http://fourmilab.ch/hotbits/
>
Random.org's solution is to take a commercial quality radio (i.e. not great
signal, not low noise) tune it to a frequency where there is no station
(they hope it stays that way) and capture noise.  The simple coin-flip
corrector scheme, although doing a great job at fixing the bias, tends to
leave residual correlations.

Fourmilab.ch's solution is just a receiver on a much greater frequency!
Does anyone know what additional post processing they do to either whiten
the data or improve the actual entropy?

Thus for either solution I would assume a fairly low entropy content and
then entropy compress the data aggressively before using it.

Finally, for both solutions, the main concern I would have would be whether
someone diverted my data download to some static site with no entropy.  Does
anyone know if they sign their bits?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DJohn37050)
Subject: Re: AES final comment deadline is May 15
Date: 18 May 2000 13:47:39 GMT

I would be EXTREMELY surprised if the nationality of the submitters was a
factor in NIST's decision.  For one, there is no need and for two, if it ever
leaked, it would be very embarrassing.
Don Johnson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please help to decipher
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:54:52 GMT

 I know a part of the permanent key and would like to find the rest.
The key is used to hide IP packets content, it just combined with
data by XOR operation. As far as I know the beginning of each packet
I could find the beginning of the key.

 I tried to find all the key in the executable and than in core dump.
But seems like it's not a predefined sequence but some hash(?)
function.

 So, the question is, which function might generate the following
sequence:

160, 112, 205, 2, 44, 135, 43, 214, 190, 149, 184, 170, 68, 209,
163, 245, 37, 153, 2, 30, 179, etc. (64 known values)

Is there any software to dig up such sequences?

Thanks a lot.



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