-Caveat Lector- The Grand Jury completely went along with the government line of bullshit vis a vis the OKC bombing. There was no John Doe 2, (at least a dozen witnesses) No evidence of government prior knowledge (. Bomb disposal truck seen downtown by several witnesses not more than an hour before the blast. An admitted BATF Sting Op being run in the early hours of the morning of the bombing; apparently called off around 6am. Bruce Shaw ran up to the Murrah building immediately after the blast and asked an ATF agent if he knew the wherabouts of his wife. The agent started getting nervous and said "...They'd been tipped by their pagers not to come to work that day. Plain as day out of his mouth. Those were the words he said." Bruce's boss, Tony Brasier was with him and verified the accuracy of Shaw's statement to KFOR television station.Their own informant Carol Howe telling them beforehand that the "Federal building" in OKC was a possible target. It's very likely that Strassmeier was a government informant as well.) No evidence of additional explosions inside the building. ( Ludicrous. There are several bomb experts and highly qualified engineers besides General (retired) Partin who have stated that the single ANFO bomb story is the height of absurdity. ANFO is a very low powered explosive and is packed into the ground for earth moving or blowing out tree stumps, it's absolutely useless against steel reinforced concrete such as the Murrah building, especially considering how far it was parked away from the structure-15 to 20 feet. Air-coupled blasts are useless against concrete and steel. One other point, the government found NO, repeat NO evidence of an ANFO blast. There are also major technical difficulties associated with simultaneously detonating, what the government alleged was 20-25 plastic containers of ANFO. Experts say it takes years of experience to successfully set off that large an ANFO explosion.) The truth will come out in this case, little by little. Gavin. www.okcbombing.org/html/response1.htm OKBIC Summary of the Final Report of the Oklahoma County Grand Jury One Indictment Issued There was one unnamed indictment issued. It has since been reported that David Hoffman is the subject of the grand jury's only indictment. The compliant was filed because Hoffman approached jurors in their homes, a violation of state law. It should also be made clear that Hoffman inappropriately used Charles Key's name on the cover of his book, and used a public fundraising letter as a forward. ``It's as if the federal government and prosecutors wrote the report themselves," said Charles Key as he exited the County Courthouse. ``I was personally offended by the comments from Judge Burkett, who was in charge of the grand jury proceedings. In a lengthy statement made after the grand jury report was read aloud, Burkett mentioned former state representative Charles Key and the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee by name. We were severely criticized for our efforts on behalf this investigation. The grand jury stated the following in their report: No John Doe #2 There was no John Doe #2, although they could not conclude there was no other co-conspirators. The jurors were satisfied that Todd Bunting was indeed mistakenly identified as John Doe #2. They concluded that if all witnesses to John Doe #2 sightings were correct he would have to be dark olive, white; with red, dark blonde or black hair; that he would have to be skinny or muscular; tall or short. The grand jury did not make mention of the discrepancy over the identity of Bob Kling, who rented the Ryder truck. Other evidence of others found in the trial transcripts include: Lea McGown, who heard men in McVeigh's room; Jeff Davis, who delivered food to someone other than McVeigh and the many witnesses who reported seeing McVeigh with someone else before any news reports of his involvement. No Evidence of Any Prior Knowledge GJ Report: They concluded no one in the government had any foreknowledge of an impending disaster. All claims were explained away. They acknowledged that most suspicious calls were innocent in nature, such a call from the Regency Towers to Michael Fortier's house in Arizona. That call was the result of the rerouting of personal numbers to the OK Command post by Southwestern Bell. On that count, we accept that explanation. Another example regarded a call to placed to Walter Reed Army Hospital, which was found to be inconclusive. OKBIC forwarded this information to the grand jury earlier this year. Someone identifying themselves as a ``Pentagon or congressional liaison to the Governor of OK office" called to ask the hospital asking about ``triage for blast overpressure victims." The jurors could not identify the caller or the call's origin. The jurors could not understand why some people would want to twist the facts to invent something so evil as the government or local law enforcement as having any prior knowledge. Two agents were trapped in elevator #3. The grand jury concluded DEA agent Daniel Chickendanz and ATF supervisor Alex McCauley were indeed in elevator #3 and managed to escape on their own. There were four ATF agents in the building at the time of the explosion. There was no prior warning for them not to be in their office on April 19th. No evidence of any additional explosions inside the building. Despite hearing from U.S. Brigadier General Ben Partin back in July of 1997, the grand jurors felt there was no evidence of any secondary explosions. They also said there was no other unexploded devices found inside the Murrah building. No evidence of bomb squads, or other law enforcement in the area prior to the blast. Timothy McVeigh & Terry Nichols acted exactly in accordance with the prosecutor's case. Michael & Lori Fortier were truthful witnesses who could be solely relied upon. Many have questioned why jurors never called a number of witnesses including: A deputy Sheriff from the Kansas area; Witnesses in Kansas, who saw McVeigh with others before the bombing; Jane Graham and others who saw suspicious people in the basement garage and in the Murrah building prior to the blast; Scientists, such as a professor from the University of Oregon with extensive NASA experience in blast wave damage A government informant who had information about terrorist cell casing the Murrah building. Judging from some the incorrect statements issued by the grand jury regarding evidence in this case, many feel the jurors did not closely examine the trial transcripts. Examples would include: The key, found in a nearby alleyway, belonged to the Ryder truck according to the report. In court testimony, the key was shown to have none of McVeigh's fingerprints on it and did not turn the Ryder truck lock. They also stated that ammonium nitrate and fuel oil (ANFO) residue was found on McVeigh's shirt. This is not true. According to testimony, no ANFO was found on McVeigh's shirt, hair, boots or car. They concluded that Terry Nichols robbed Roger Moore to finance the bombing. By Moore's own testimony, the robber did not fit Nichols description. Jurors said a drill bit taken from Terry Nichols' home matched the markings on a lock found at a the scene of a quarry robbery. In fact, the judge did not allow any such testimony, only an opinion that it might be ``consistent with" that drill bit. A long way from conclusive. After a lengthy battle to gain access to the federal case work and federal agents, only one agent was called to testify. It is doubtful, given the few moths they had the case files, that there was time to review them properly. Background Information In 1996, Rep. Key began spear-heading a petition drive to convene this grand jury, along with the late Glenn Wilburn. After lengthy and bitter court battles, the citizen's petition drive finally gained approval from the state's highest court. Within six weeks the drive netted 13,500 signatures in OK County. The FBI and local politicians, including OK Attorney General Drew Edmondson and OK District Attorney Robert Macy, fought the citizen's initiative and any suggestion of unanswered questions. The grand jury proceedings were under the direction of Macy's office. Wilburn lost his only two grandsons in the bombing. He and many other survivor's families believe the bombing was not the work of one or two individuals. They have been critical of the FBI for investigating all the information regarding what has become known as ``others unknown." According to a recent Gallop poll, 70% of Americans believe there are ``others" escaped justice in the nation's largest mass murder. ``Even Judge Matsch believed there were unanswered questions. He was promised the investigation would continue and it has not," said Cate McCauley, the committee's executive director. ``It's not over. Our committee is working on an in depth report that will go to Congress and be available to the public." The Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee, a non-profit organization, was formed during the petition drive and has tried to assist the grand jury with their investigation. Five members of the committee have testified, including McCauley and Key, who appeared twice. ``We were told all our questions would be answered and they haven't," says V.Z. Lawton, a bombing survivor who lost 58 of his friends on April 19, 1995. ``The FBI and others have not told us the truth. They keep trying to rewrite history and have resorted to name-calling in order to shut us up. It's disgraceful." The committee expects to issue a report in 30-60 days. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. 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