-Caveat Lector- Call Cisco on the telephone and they can verify everything I said about them changing the IOS on the Cisco supplied modems to Quest Communications which in turn passed them on to their parent company SBC. Cisco told them that they could not support the modems if they did not tell them how they altered the IOS. SBC did not care. You can call Cisco on the telephone and verify if this is true or not. It is completely true. Cisco was very concerned with how SBC altered the IOS because they are also makers of Hardware Fire Walls and Security for computers. Go to www.cisco.com and call them on the telephone. You can verify that this is true. Get a small ISP in your area that uses SBC lines and use a modem supplied directly from Cisco. If SBC changed the IOS in Cisco supplied modems then they are also changing the IOS in any other modem they pass on to their customers. TRUTH NOT FICTION. CALL Cisco and they will verify that this is true.
-----Original Message----- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joshua Tinnin Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 4:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] SBC Modems are a Trojan Horse -Caveat Lector- Whoops! Sorry, damn word-wrapping. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Tinnin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I should add that I know a number of SBC ADSL subscribers, and they use a variety of different modems for their dynamic IP customers, Westell included. There is nothing special or especially different about these modems, except they support PPPoE, and you are free to buy your own from an unrelated third party and use that, as long as it supports PPPoE. Fixed IP ADSL customers who use SBC as their provider don't need a modem, which is also the case for most other fixed IP broadband services. - jt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Tinnin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This sounds totally bogus. I am an SBC ADSL customer, and, while there are other problems related to their service, this is completely uncorroborated and undocumented. As such, it can't be taken seriously. However, for your information, my modem is made by Westell, which also supplies ADSL modems to a number of other ISPs, and they can also be bought without subscribing to any ADSL service. The technical information you provide is inaccurate - that's not how the protocol which SBC uses (PPPoE) works, and they are not the only company which uses this protocol. Are you referring to the IOS of the Pacbell/SBC network? Are you referring to this problem? http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/largeent/issues/security/sbytes/v03 i10_ 1101.html#vuln1 If so, you seem to have misunderstood what the problem actually is, as it deals with routers, and doesn't apply to people who have modems. Incidentally, if you are an SBC ADSL customer with a fixed IP, you can use a router, and there is no modem involved. - jt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shemuwel Antoine Moser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cisco at www.cisco.com supplied all of SBC's (which now owns Ameritech) DSL modems. Cisco informed me that they supplied the ADSL modems to Quest Communications a division of SBC and this company modified the IOS (Internet Operating System) and would not disclose to Cisco how they changed the IOS so Cisco told Quest Communications and SBC that they could not support the modem and SBC did not care. SBC is pressuring small ISP's into buying their modified DSL modems and pass them on to their customers. SBC modems are a DANGEROUS Trojan Horse that insiders can use to get into your computer no matter what kind of firewall you use because since the back door is through the ISO itself the firewall will think it is normal traffic allow it. 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