-Caveat Lector-

It is from an old comic book featuring the Freak Brothers. It was sage
advice from the Freak Brothers. I had the phrase blazoned across t'shirts in
college.

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From: "Jei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Fighting for peace is like f*cking for virginity


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> Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity
>
>    "FIGHTING FOR PEACE IS LIKE F__KING FOR VIRGINITY"
>
>    I had this on a t-shirt I found in Jerusalem's [12]Old City when I was
>    a teenager. It was by far my most successful [13]punk t-shirt, meaning
>    that out of all my ragged clothes, this was the garment most likely to
>    get me into a fight. You wore a t-shirt like that in Israel back then,
>    you were just [14]asking for it. The only thing that saved me from
>    constantly wearing a bloody pulp for a face was the fact that most
>    people who really strongly objected to that kind of sentiment didn't
>    read English well enough to catch it. But a lot of them did.
>
>    Ironic, isn't it? You wear a shirt calling for peace, you get into
>    fights. I tried [15]passive resistance, but found out the hard way
>    that passive resistance gets you hurt more. It didn't matter, anyway.
>    I wasn't trying for [16]consistency. Have you ever met a punk with a
>    consistent belief system [17]that he actually followed?
>
>    Eventually I decided the shirt had to go. It had earned me enough
>    [18]credibility already, and I was getting pretty tired of wearing an
>    invitation to rumble. No matter how many fights I got into, I never
>    did learn to fight properly, and there just weren't enough punks in
>    Israel to provide any kind of [19]group safety for me. I gave the
>    shirt to some girl from the [20]Peace Now! movement, figuring no one
>    would beat up a girl because of her shirt. She would use it better
>    than I had, and I really did get into less fights after that. Ripped
>    up "Bauhaus" and "Meteors" t-shirts just don't have that same
>    punch-me-now effect.
>
>    Of course, [21]I had no idea where the slogan came from. I assumed it
>    was [22]Vietnam. All the really good quotes came from Vietnam, as we
>    all knew.
>
>    Fast-forward sixteen or so years, I still see the slogan pop up from
>    time to time. You can see it on protestors' signs sometimes. It's even
>    begun to morph. I've seen a less elegant version, "fighting for WORLD
>    peace is like fucking for virginity". And, of course, no one ever
>    knows where it came from. I've tried to dig up the source. Various
>    websites attribute it to one [23]Emma S. Riches, but none of them
>    state who she was. [24]Vietnam protests are still looking like the
>    likeliest source for this phrase.
>
>    As numerous people have pointed out, this is one of the crudest
>    slogans popularized by modern culture. Less abrasive and more eloquent
>    alternatives have been suggested and debated by various intellectuals.
>    [25]Albert Camus came up with "[26]There are causes worth dying for,
>    but none worth killing for". Another [27]Albert said "[28]You cannot
>    simultaneously prevent and prepare for war". And [29]Martin Luther
>    King had the best of them all: "[30]War is a poor chisel to carve out
>    tomorrows".
>
>    But for all their elegance, nothing beats the [31]bite of this phrase.
>    It's good because it's so crude. It grabs people's attention and
>    sticks in their memories like no elegantly polished phrase ever could.
>    Say it with me now: "FIGHTING FOR PEACE IS LIKE FUCKING FOR
>    VIRGINITY". It works on all sorts of levels. And it's true, too.
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