-Caveat Lector- Yeah ok Ray. Self-hatred? And pathological at that huh?

Ray, apparently you're fine with empire-building and utterly disregarding domestic problems but I tend towards an America FIRST view and value the Constitution...to you both America and our Constitution are clearly secondary at best.

If you are so deluded as to believe that Iraq is a threat to ANYONE - much less America - I can't help you. Keep getting your "news" from the neo-cons on FoxNews and talk radio...Goebbels would be proud of these shills. Don't dig any deeper than you have to to see for yourself what's REALLY happening. If it isn't in the Washington Times or the Weekly Standard it must be wrong.

I see that your primary allegiance seems to be to Israel and therein lies our differences. I cannot change your lack of enthusiasm for what WAS the American way. Maybe Tel Aviv calls??

We give aid to many countries and we ought to cease and desist all aid forthwith.
But if we're going to be the military wing of the UN we ought to be consistent and also enforce UN resolutions against Israel. At the very least we ought to suspend all aid until Israel comes into compliance with each and every one of the 70+ resolutions that they are in violation of.

See Ray, I am offended as an American in out meddling in the affairs of other SOVEREIGN nations...it's none of our business what Iraq or Gambia or Uraguay do internally just as what we do is not their business. You seem to be very cavalier with national sovereignty and I could see such an attitude backfiring on us. One day China or Russia may feel the need for "regime change" here...and people like you set precedent.

Are you also going to apologize for the next round of Napoleon Bush's empire building in Syria and Iran? When does it end Ray? And how did the so-called "war on terror" morph into making the Middle East safe for Israel?

Are you a man Ray or are you a sheep?

Bill.




In a message dated 3/13/2003 9:09:10 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Who else can keep a semblance of peace and order in the world besides
the US?

Certainly not the United Nations, an impotent organization which is
overrun with representatives from the very tyrannical, oppressive
regimes which need reform.

As to the ridiculous ( and ubiquitous) charge that  it's all about big
oil. . .

Use a little common sense.

Which would be simpler and easier - to appease Saddam Hussein like the
French and the Germans have done in order to strike sweet deals for
Iraqui oil, regardless of the atrocities this madman is committing
against his own people, and the threat he couses to other nations, or
to stand against him, depose him, and return control of the country's
resources to the citizens?

Again, which would be simpler and easier - to protect the only
functional, free-economy democracy in the Middle East, Israel, or to
allow known murderers like Yasser Arafat to continue to milk the
Palestinians to serve as his personal cheering squad and power base? If
Arafat had any concern for the Palestinian people, he could have good
living conditions and an economy as strong as Israel's. After all,
Israel managed to turn the same harsh environment into an area teeming
with manufacturing, research and agriculture. What has Arafat's
leadership caused the Palestinians to produce? Homicidal maniacs and
whiners.

Iraq does indeed pose a threat - not only to us but the entire world.
That's why the impotent United Nations decreed that Hussein must disarm
- 11 years ago. Iraqui's have suffered under UN-approved sanctions
because Hussein has not complied with the terms established which would
remove those sanctions. Wars of aggression are despicable. But this is
not a war of aggression. We don't want to annex Iraq as the Germans did
the Sudetenland - we want to return Iraq to it's own people, free of a
tyrannical madman.

As to your continuing references to "Napoleon" Bush. . .  Can you
please list, in alphabetical order the countries which consititute this
imaginary empire? Which nations pay their taxes to us? Which nations
pay us tribute? Instead, why don't you balance the zero-entry empire
list against all of the nations which we support.

In fact, who gives more financial aid to the Palestinians than any
other nation in the world? The United States.

It seems so many who criticize our policies suffer from a pathological
self-hatred.

Ray




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