-Caveat Lector- The following info on the Pentagon hit was posted without attribution to a 9-11 list I'm on. I don't have the time or the knowledge to evaluate its accuracy, but it looks interesting. There are lots of web links at the end.
Forwarded message --------------------------- Thought you might be interested in this list I've been putting together, and my latest thoughts on the Pentagon scenario. The Rense mystery line pic was indeed 4 days before 9/11 per Space Imaging. The line is meaningless, but my firepit observation is now more cogent. The first links you already have. The latter ones are high res shots from different places. The Purdue info is interesting. I made the comment some time ago about the same mechanical effect of the fuel in the WTC impacts. The list below is a work in progress. Please provide me more quality links if you have them. The interesting things to note from these links are the Pentagon trees, the mysterious line in the grass photo was truly taken on 9/7/2001, so therefore my earlier firepit observation is still in play. It does appear also that the large central fire left after the main fireball, is the one tree that was in the path of the plane. Some of the pics prove that there was no confetti storm out on the highway as reported. Notice the Purdue simulation carries the fuel well into the building and the fuselage seems to stop well short of the punchout hole. Note that they claim that it is the incompressible liquid fuel that is responsible for most of the physical (non-fire) damage, not the plane's aluminum. There are very many more pics of the punchout hole. I think only a 757 engine could possibly make this size and shape hole, and in doing so it necessarily needed to bounce off some columns to do so and make a major impact in the B ring. Yet, it was not reported to be an engine (757 or F16) which made the hole, either it was reported as the nose or the front landing gear. A missile that created this size hole would also damage the B ring and the columns just in front of the punchout hole, yet it did not per the damage reports and the pics. In fact, these last C ring columns are reported to have only minor damage such as concrete spalling. To me the significance of the location of the strike is being missed. It is important for the following reasons: 1. It occurred at the location of the newly reinforced area which was still 5 days away from completion. This means a naturally low occupancy rate. This can also be seen on the Arlington County After Report floor plans. They could limit casualties to expendable personnel and those they needed to 'disappear'. 2. It took place just in front of the expansion joint. Why? The better to collapse and impede an investigation My Dear. This is because the ability to transfer weight load to adjacent columns is at its weakest at the expansion joint. 3. The impact took place only involving the first and second floors. These floors are the only ones which provide a contiguous reach from the E ring to the back of the C ring. Hence there is no need to provide for extra egress and entrance holes between the intermediate ring walls. If the released parking lot security camera clip really shows an F16, why would the Pentagon release this image? Is Dick Eastman's missile trail really a missile or would it more likely be velocity induced steam from the wingtip vortex as commonly seen on fighter jets flying at high speed and low altitude? Or could it be engine induced vapor contrail? Or, is the whole thing fake to purposely create controversy, which is their best friend? We actually have enough quality overhead photos including the known official flight path (via the plotting of the downed light poles) to calculate precisely where the plane's nose should appear in the photo using the tail as a baseline. Could an F16 with only a 31 foot wingspan have 'clipped' all 5 light poles? I don't think so. If so, in this case the light poles were props. If they were props for this scenario, then they could just as easily be props for the 757 scenario as well. The largest photo of a downed light pole shows it not only clipped at the top and having broken / sheared off the 4 bolts at its base, but that it is severely bent. My understanding of metals is that shearing of this type and bending of this magnitude are incompatible. Either one or the other will occur depending upon the force parameters applied. And don't forget that just prior to the 757 having literally come in right off the deck, it is reported to have just completed a steep dive from 7700 feet and a 270 degree turn. Finally, should not a 757 flying at speed flip a few cars on the highway and also even the parked vehicles next to the Pentagon? Boeing 757-200 dimensions wingspan is 124' 10" fuselage width - 12' 4", fuselage height 13' 2" http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/aircompat/acaps/753sec2.pdf Arlington County After Report with Pentagon Floor Plan and damage zone in next to last pages http://www.co.arlington.va.us/fire/edu/about/pdf/after_report.pdf The damage mapping was supposedly compiled by the FBI ASCE supplementary illustrations https://www.asce.org/pdf/illustrations.pdf Purdue simulation analysis http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase1/ "A basic hypothesis, informally confirmed with engineers knowledgeable in this subject, is that the bulk of the impact damage is due to the body of fuel in the wing and center tanks. Most of the aircraft structure is light-weight low-mass, and relatively low strength, with the exception of the wheel undercarriage." http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/popescu/pentagonVis_files/paper_422..pdf http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/popescu/pentagonVis_files/pentagonVis2003.mpg Simulation video. Note here that they represent the above fuel being carried well inside the building. ftp://ftp.purdue.edu/pub/uns/sozen.pentagon.jpeg ftp://ftp.purdue.edu/pub/uns/sozen.pentagon2.jpeg ftp://ftp.purdue.edu/pub/uns/sozen.pentagon3.jpeg http://www.icivilengineer.com/News/WTC/pentagon.php Interesting sites with pics and graphics http://0911.site.voila.fr/index1.htm http://0911.site.voila.fr/ericbart.htm http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ericbart/ http://www.effroyable-imposture.net/ http://www.boss-tweed.com/conspiracy/conspindex.html#effroyab http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/trajectory.html http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/wings.html More on those trees - "the burning bush speaks?" http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/record.asp?ID=3 http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/images/large/3_290.jpg Partial demolition of D and C rings well beyond the expansion joints http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/nose.html The punch out hole http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0203/S00056.htm Big pics http://www.spaceimaging.com/gallery/9-11/default.htm# Copies of the same above: http://www.ceo.ncsu.edu/attack/ Series of satellite images Pentagon http://www.ceo.ncsu.edu/attack/nyc-images/Pentagon_after.jpg http://www.ceo.ncsu.edu/attack/nyc-images/pentagon.jpg WTC - BTW http://www.ceo.ncsu.edu/attack/nyc-images/manhattan_before_psh.jpg The above IKONOS images are reproduced here with Space Imaging's permission. Here is their required legal information: "Credit: spaceimaging.com. Copyright © Space Imaging. All rights reserved. Permission is granted to publish in hard copy, broadcast and electronic media, provided proper attribution is given for each and every use." http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/2.jpg Notice intense flames on ground from the firepit area I had earlier marked on the 'mystery' line in the grass pic. http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/3.jpg What's going on with the electrical generator? Is it in the right spot? http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/10.jpg Trees and the utility vault opened. Notice the guy looking in the manhole. http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/11.jpg Trees, 'melted fire truck', and the cars http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/12.jpg Trees and 'blast proof' windows http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/13.jpg Debris field or demolition ejecta and salted wreckage? http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/16.jpg Rooftop http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/17.jpg Rooftop 2 http://www.criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010015.JPG - The firepit and cars. Notice here the SUV is dark. Notice no aluminum confetti in the foreground http://criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010017.JPG - More no confetti http://criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010011.JPG http://criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010013.JPG http://criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010016.JPG Where's the melted fire truck? http://criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010018.JPG http://criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010019.JPG http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/fuselage/columns_supports.jpg www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. 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