[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Tom Kean's comments - setting the terms of controlled debate

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>>...phony Left/Right control paradigm set up
by higher Hegelian masters of manipulation, ie, the masonic banking
elite and royal families. These are the real leaders of the world, not the Bushes, the Putins,
the Hu Jintaos, the Schroeders or the Blairs who are merely puppets
of these more powerful creatures who prefer to remain in the shadows
where they can act in invioable secrecy to engineer THEIR world
order. We are of course talking about the Rockefellers, the
Rothschilds, the House of Windsor, the House of Orange, the Saudi
princes, and the Bilderberg Group just to name a few. THESE are the
people we should be investigating and protesting against if we really
want to get to the bottom of 9/11, for it is ultimately THEM and
their agenda which is served by its devastating effects and aftermath.<<
 
I'm just not convinced about who the "real leaders" are.  I think what has happened for centuries is a cabal of investors has provided financing for certain projects all over the world.  They want their investment protected by governments, and get classified confidential contracts and other documents signed, treaties if necessary.  The government officials who promote these projects may even invest some of the government's reserves, hoping to make big profits for their own agendas.  So, if the project fails or is confiscated by the foreign government (as when Mossadegh nationalized "private" investment back in the 1950's) then the government officials have to protect their own skins rather than tell the truth.  They send in the CIA or some secret covert group within the intelligence framework to do the dirty work.  The way they look at it, it's their money and assets (which serve as security for "loans" made) can be freely stolen.  I have no problem with any of this, as long as it's all disclosed up front.  But it never is because the men in power are there because of their contacts rather than merit.  They don't know how to run a professional business.  I doubt most of the families mentioned have any idea what their investments are.  They have been entrusted to their managers with only one idea in mind--make big profits.  The investors get their share, of course, but only so long as they keep the returns high.  So they'll do whatever it takes to keep doing that--even if it means rigging elections to put their own people in office and ensure that defaulted loans and sour investments are fully secured by the assets of the countries or leaders who got their money.  The Hegelian model is how these truly amoral individuals accomplish their goals.  The pattern was set many centuries ago and still works quite well, as long as the masses of people remain as gullible as they are today.
 
Linda Minor
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Subject: [cia-drugs] Tom Kean's comments - setting the terms of controlled debate

First some comments

by Paul Walker


Frankly, I do not find these latest statements by, Bush's cousin, bin
Ladin family business partner, Saudi oil sheik and 9/11 Commission
Chair Thomas Kean quite so uplifting as Kyle Hence and Wm Rivers Pitt
seem to -- primarily because the 9/11 debate parameters remain within
the paradigm of an independent al Qaeda coming in to attack America,
rather than looking at the fact that the 19 highjackers were merely
patsies (many in abstentia!), window dressing in a military psyop ala
Operation Northwoods.

Then too, it remains within the paradigm of "Homeland (Fatherland?
Motherland?) Security" where we are told over and over that there
were "failures in intelligence" and that if only people had done
their jobs, had better equipment, or had been prepared with a vast
KGB/Gestapo Police State, and if only Bush had only been more on the
ball, none of this would have happened.

Kean says for example,

"There are people that, if I was doing the job, would certainly not
be in the position they were in at that time because they failed.
They simply failed.."

Now that is the same tired old line they have been feeding the
gullible public for over two years now, so I do not see what has
changed. I admit, if and when they start demonstrating that Bush
was "complicit" ie, that he and his top co-conspirators knew what was
happening and did nothing to stop it (LIHOP, the "Let it Happen on
Purpose" theory), then we are getting somewhere. But even then, it
will not be the full horrible truth.

Many on the Left are content to leave it at that, but they fall
short. Most of them claim that an actual Operation Northwoods-style
military psyop is too way out, that "they would never do that that!",
that it was indeed an al Qaeda job, that the various intelligence
services and the Pentagon just allowed to happen -- not that they
were directly involved in it.

Then they will go onto say that the "Right Wing" cooked up this
scheme fairly recently just so they could justify going in to grab
the Caspian oil fields, and create a "Pax Americana" in accordance
with the PNAC documents, which is again, only a partial view of the
overall picture involving a phony Left/Right control paradigm set up
by higher Hegelian masters of manipulation, ie, the masonic banking
elite and royal families.

These are the real leaders of the world, not the Bushes, the Putins,
the Hu Jintaos, the Schroeders or the Blairs who are merely puppets
of these more powerful creatures who prefer to remain in the shadows
where they can act in invioable secrecy to engineer THEIR world
order. We are of course talking about the Rockefellers, the
Rothschilds, the House of Windsor, the House of Orange, the Saudi
princes, and the Bilderberg Group just to name a few. THESE are the
people we should be investigating and protesting against if we really
want to get to the bottom of 9/11, for it is ultimately THEM and
their agenda which is served by its devastating effects and aftermath.

9/11 has served to empower and expand the CFR, the EU, the UN, NATO,
socialism, fascism and every globalist organization imaginable
towards a synthetic New World Order global security state which
utilizes this Left/Right paradigm to divide and conquer the masses
who remain, for the most part, useful idiots on both sides of the
controlled debate. Just as planned. And so we see both the US and the
UN converging on the same goals, world government, Orwellian measures
to "keep us safe" and total commitment to the phony War on Terror.
All because of 9/11 essentially.

Until such time as this investigation, both by citizens and by the
government, becomes more objective and attempts to take in the entire
picture, there is no hope of it getting to the bottom of it all. They
will just keep going round and round in circles while a global
tyranny is set up around us and all people live in contant fear of
terror, war, plagues and yet allow themselves to be sucked into this
pre-planned agenda for world government and totalitarian police-state
control.

My hope is that people will think independently, further educate
themselves and seek only the truth, rather than allow their political
biases to filter the truth into more being more palatable, thus
feeding the dialectical cycle that is feeding the New World Order
into full-blown existence.

9/11, and how people see it, is at the heart of everything. It is the
pivot point upon all the gravely serious issues of the day are
resting. If we mishandle it, and fail to expose the entire truth,
then the whole thing will fall the way of the globalists.

I also hope that people can see that the major media's "bias" is
neither Liberal nor Conservative, but is essentially Hegelian in
nature, just as are the top politicians who all work together at the
top of the pyramid to bring about this tyranny thrugh lies and clever
manipulation. They guide the 9/11 Commission. They control the
debate.

It is time to take everything back, the media, the government, and
the investigation. The conspirators must all be exposed on both the
Left and the Right. They must face some kind of justice eventually.
We all must work harder to counter the mainstream media's warping of
reality. We must put some fire to the feet of our representatives and
hold them accountable for such atrocities as the Patriot Act,
Homeland Gestapo and this headlong movement by the Left to adopt UN
statutes inside the US, thus further eroding our sovereignty and thus
our only protection, the Bill of Rights.

Thus, both the Right Wing Neocons and the Left Wing Socialists, whose
leadership truly does cooperate toward the same goals, can be
neutralized and America can once again, earn the name of the Land of
the Free. Home of the Brave.


Paul Walker (Aftermath News)


Reference:

9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/17/eveningnews/main589137.shtml







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