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'Music Is Not a Loaf of Bread'
By Xeni Jardin

Wired News - posted 02:00 AM Nov. 15, 2004 PT

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,65688,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5

Giving away an album online isn't the way most artists
end up with gold records. But it worked out that way
for Wilco.

After being dropped from Reprise Records in 2001 over
creative conflicts surrounding Yankee Hotel Foxtrot,
the Chicago-based band committed what some thought
would be suicide -- they streamed it online for free.

The album's subsequent release on Nonesuch debuted
higher on the charts than any of their prior releases.
That success gave both band and label confidence to try
new internet forays: the first-ever MPEG-4 webcast with
Apple, as well as more free online offerings of live
shows and an EP's worth of fresh tracks. The band's
2004 release, A Ghost Is Born, hit No. 8 on the
Billboard charts -- their highest position to date.

By conventional industry logic, file sharing hurts the
odds for commercial success. Wilco front man Jeff
Tweedy disagrees. Wired News caught up with him during
his current tour to find out just what makes Wilco so
wired.

Wired News: What sparked the idea of offering your
music online for free?

Jeff Tweedy: Being dropped from Reprise in 2001. They
weren't going to put out Yankee Hotel Foxtrot the way
we'd created it. They wanted changes; we weren't
willing to do that, so they rushed a contract through
their legal department to let us go. It was the fastest
I'd ever seen a record company work. Once they let us
go, we were free to do with the album what we chose.

We'd been noticing how much more important the internet
had become -- once information is out there in the
world now, anyone can get it. Since that was beginning
to happen with the record anyway, we figured, OK, let's
just stream it for free ourselves.

WN: Did you minimize the quality of the files you
offered online, so that people would be encouraged to
pay for a higher-quality "real thing" when you signed
to a new record label?

Tweedy: We didn't go out of our way to make it sound
low-res. MP3s are poorer quality anyway. That's part of
why the record industry's argument against file sharing
is so ridiculous -- nothing out there on P2P networks
sounds as good as the original CD or vinyl record.

WN: Did the free online release make it hard for you to
find a new label home?

Tweedy: That's why we ended up with Nonesuch. They
weren't intimidated by the fact that hundreds of
thousands had already downloaded it.

WN: What was your reaction when copies of A Ghost Is
Born started showing up online this year, before the
official release?

Tweedy: Something interesting happened. We were
contacted by fans who were excited about the fact that
they found it on P2P networks, but wanted to give
something back in good faith. They wanted to send money
to express solidarity with the fact that we'd embraced
the downloading community. We couldn't take the money
ourselves, so they asked if we could pick a charity
instead -- we pointed them to Doctors Without Borders,
and they ended up receiving about $15,000.

WN: What are your thoughts on the RIAA's ongoing
lawsuits against individual file sharers?

Tweedy: We live in a connected world now. Some find
that frightening. If people are downloading our music,
they're listening to it. The internet is like radio for
us.

WN: You don't agree with the argument that file sharing
hurts musicians' ability to earn a living?

Tweedy: I don't believe every download is a lost sale.

WN: What if the efforts to stop unauthorized music file
sharing are successful? How would that change culture?

Tweedy: If they succeed, it will damage the culture and
industry they say they're trying to save.

What if there was a movement to shut down libraries
because book publishers and authors were up in arms
over the idea that people are reading books for free?
It would send a message that books are only for the
elite who can afford them.

Stop trying to treat music like it's a tennis shoe,
something to be branded. If the music industry wants to
save money, they should take a look at some of their
six-figure executive expense accounts. All those
lawsuits can't be cheap, either.

WN: How do you feel about efforts to control how music
flows through the online world with digital rights
management technologies?

Tweedy: A piece of art is not a loaf of bread. When
someone steals a loaf of bread from the store, that's
it. The loaf of bread is gone. When someone downloads a
piece of music, it's just data until the listener puts
that music back together with their own ears, their
mind, their subjective experience. How they perceive
your work changes your work.

Treating your audience like thieves is absurd. Anyone
who chooses to listen to our music becomes a
collaborator.

People who look at music as commerce don't understand
that. They are talking about pieces of plastic they
want to sell, packages of intellectual property.

I'm not interested in selling pieces of plastic.

WN: Your critics might say that it's easy for you to
say that, given that you're already a commercial
success.

Tweedy: I'm grateful that I've sold enough to have a
house, take care of my kids and live decently. But
that's a gift, not an entitlement.

I don't want potential fans to be blocked because the
choice to check out our music becomes a financial
decision for them.

WN: How do you feel about some of the new kinds of
rights management alternatives some are proposing,
instead of our current copyright schemes -- for
instance, Creative Commons licenses that would allow
your fans to remix your material for personal,
noncommercial use?

Tweedy: Commercial use is one thing, but I have no
problem with fans tinkering with it on their laptops,
then sharing it with their friends -- that's just a new
way for them to listen.

WN: Wilco is involved in a lot of non-music projects --
you published a book of poetry called Adult Head this
year, the band was the subject of a 2002 documentary
film, and the band just released a new book of photos,
art, essays and previously unreleased tracks on an
accompanying CD -- The Wilco Book. Is there a link
between all the multimedia exploration and the relaxed
attitude you seem to have about what happens to your
music in the digital realm?

Tweedy: We're a collective of people who live to create
things. When we released A Ghost Is Born, we decided to
do that in an enhanced format for a number of reasons.
We get to deliver more art that way. It's also a
concession to the fact that we're artists who do work
within the industry infrastructure. This offers
something more than a downloaded MP3 can.

WN: What's next from Wilco in the way of online
experiments?

Tweedy: Every few months or so we put a new live show
on our site for download. And between YHF and AGIB, we
released some tracks exclusively on our site for free.
We've been encouraged by the response.

This has just become part of the way the band interacts
with our audience. It's part of what we do now, and I
don't think we're going to stop anytime soon.

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