-Caveat Lector-
Scary? SCARY??!!! Whaddya mean Scary? For two years a
whole bunch of people have been hollering at the top of
their lungs HEY THEY ARE COMING FOR THE GUNS, AND THEY HAVE
BUILT PRISON CAMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND FEMA PREDICTS
MARTIAL LAW AT Y2K! And the sheople continued to stay tuned
to their "Programming". Now why do you suppose its called
Programming, Hmmmmm? This is NOT conspiracy theory, it is
REAL History, but when that patriot, was it Thomas Paine,
spoke and said I have no way to judge the future but by the
past, he wasn't whistlin' dixie, for Goddess' sake. He was
telling it like it is, and of course this information is all
very well known now, and with the advent of the most
coercive media EVER, Television, came the true potential for
lock down and destruction of our society. Nobody can judge
the future realistically because the past has been hidden
with flash and glamor. What a bunch of idiot simians we
have become, ever entranced by that oh so basic magic of
moving pictures.
BG
Nicky Molloy wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nelwyn Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, 25 July 1999 10:53
> Subject: Re: [Y2K] Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream
>
> Have you any idea how to go about getting that attorney's handout? I'd
> dearly love to see it. He's done work I've been too busy to do.
>
> Nelwyn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; NAYCAG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 3:01 PM
> Subject: [Y2K] Y2K Conspiracy Goes Mainstream
>
> > I know Declan McCullagh is somewhat of a scaremonger, but it there is any
> > truth to this article, it is quite scary.
> >
> > Michael Marshall
> > Visit: http://www.northalabama-y2k.com
> > When the going gets tough....RUN!
> >
> > Y2K Conspiracy Goes
> > Mainstream
> > by Declan McCullagh
> >
> > 3:00 a.m. 15.Jul.99.PDT
> > WASHINGTON -- For many Y2K
> > fanatics, the scariest
> > threat on 1 January 2000 is
> > not technology at all. It's
> > the far more sinister
> > specter of a power-mad
> > president imposing martial
> > law.
> >
> > Dark visions of US Marines
> > stomping through backyards
> > on New Year's Eve 1999 are a
> > staple of innumerable Y2K
> > discussion groups. A typical
> > post: "There is nothing
> > secret about the fact [that
> > the] US, UK and Canada are
> > preparing for martial law."
> >
> > These sorts of ruminations
> > are no longer the sole
> > domain of fringe conspiracy
> > buffs. They got a boost
> > Wednesday from a conference
> > hosted by the staid US
> > Reserve Officers
> > Association, an eminently
> > respectable organization
> > that Congress chartered in
> > 1920.
> >
> > During the full-day meeting,
> > titled "National Conference
> > on Presidential Powers and
> > Executive Orders," and
> > organized by an anti-UN
> > advocacy group, legislators
> > and lawyers warned that
> > President Clinton could see
> > Y2K disruptions as a
> > convenient excuse to call
> > out the troops and declare
> > martial law.
> >
> > "President Clinton might
> > take that opportunity?"
> > asked an audience member
> > from Concerned Women for
> > America.
> >
> > "That is my fear," replied
> > Representative Jack Metcalf
> > (R-Washington). "It seems to
> > me that the only emergency
> > that we might see coming is
> > the Y2K. [With] a
> > power-hungry president, who
> > knows what he might do."
> >
> > Conference organizer Cliff
> > Kincaid agreed: "It appears
> > we don't have a President
> > anymore. We have a king."
> > Kincaid is head of America's
> > Survival, which is devoted
> > to combating global
> > organizations in general and
> > the UN in particular.
> >
> > Attendees seemed suitably
> > scared. Carolyn Betts, who
> > was reading The Day After
> > Roswell, said she suspected
> > a clandestine agency had
> > bombarded her office in
> > Washington with
> > high-frequency audio. "Both
> > the people and the dogs had
> > diarrhea," said Betts, and
> > the masonry started to
> > crumble.
> >
> > For real Y2K conspiracy
> > fans, the highlight of the
> > day was a presentation by
> > William Olsen, a lawyer at a
> > McLean, Virginia, law firm.
> >
> > "We're headed on the road to
> > tyranny," he said.
> >
> > Olsen declined to predict
> > whether martial law -- or
> > similar restrictions, such
> > as military courts, seizure
> > of private property, and
> > suspension of normal
> > due-process rights -- would
> > definitely happen due to
> > Y2K.
> >
> > But he did distribute to the
> > 30-person audience a 27-page
> > legal document he had
> > co-authored. It shows, in
> > exhaustive detail, that
> > whoever occupies the Oval
> > Office has near limitless
> > power to declare emergencies
> > and call out the troops, as
> > President Wilson did in 1914
> > when he ordered the Army
> > into Colorado with orders to
> > disarm all residents and
> > even police.
> >
> > Could it happen again? Quite
> > possibly, Olsen said. "One
> > wonders what the reaction
> > will be next time."
> >
> > There have been earlier
> > signs that some
> > Washingtonians are
> > considering an aggressive
> > response to Y2K.
> >
> > Senator Robert Bennett, the
> > Utah Republican who chairs
> > the Senate Y2K task force,
> > has asked the Pentagon what
> > plans it has "in the event
> > of a Y2K-induced breakdown
> > of community services that
> > might call for martial law,"
> > and a House subcommittee has
> > recommended that President
> > Clinton consider declaring a
> > Y2K "national emergency."
> >
> > Like Olsen, other
> > conference-goers cited
> > history as evidence that
> > martial law could go into
> > effect. They pointed to
> > President Lincoln, who
> > usurped constitutional
> > authority in well-chronicled
> > ways.
> >
> > During the Civil War and
> > Reconstruction, Lincoln's
> > government arrested and
> > tried civilians in military
> > and civilian courts,
> > ignoring rules of habeas
> > corpus. This led to the
> > passage of the Posse
> > Comitatus Act, which
> > restricts using the military
> > for domestic law
> > enforcement.
> >
> > Lincoln's justification was
> > the inherent power of the
> > commander-in-chief and his
> > duty to "take Care that the
> > Laws be faithfully
> > Executed."
> >
> > When it comes to the use of
> > troops to restore order
> > during riots, however, the
> > President can suspend the
> > Posse Comitatus Act with the
> > stroke of a pen. The law
> > doesn't cover soldiers
> > deployed as authorized by
> > the Constitution or exempted
> > from the act by statute.
> >
> > Further, some worry that
> > courts may not be willing to
> > confront the military during
> > a time of genuine crisis. "A
> > court may simply avoid
> > deciding an important
> > constitutional question in
> > the midst of a war," Supreme
> > Court Chief Justice William
> > Rehnquist wrote in All the
> > Laws but One.
> >
> > All the more reason to limit
> > presidential authority,
> > especially executive orders,
> > says Congressman Metcalf.
> > "The President's use of
> > executive orders and
> > proclamations is reckless,"
> > he said.
> >
> > Metcalf has introduced a
> > nonbinding resolution that
> > says, "It is the sense of
> > the Congress" that executive
> > orders be curtailed. He said
> > he has 71 co-sponsors,
> > including House Judiciary
> > committee chairman
> > Representative Henry Hyde
> >
> >
> >
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